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  • Air Canada adds $120 fuel "surcharge". Where is the government?

    This is just retarded. Why can airlines add "surcharges" that aren't in their "airfare"? If it's part of the cost and nonnegotiable, then it should be included. The government needs to step up and kick some ass.

    Plus, $0 to $120 is RIDICULOUS. This is a week after Air Canada started charging another $25 if you want to check a 2nd bag.


    Air Canada adds fuel surcharges to Canadian flights

    MONTREAL–Air Canada (TSX: AC.A) has quietly imposed domestic fuel charges for the first time in four years that could cost Canadians flying across the country an extra $120 for a round-trip ticket.

    The price increases, imposed Friday, would add $120 a round-trip for flights of more than 1,001 miles, or 1,601.6 kilometres, each way. Smaller surcharges would be slapped on tickets for shorter trips.

    For example, people flying from Halifax, Montreal and Toronto to Calgary, Edmonton, Regina or Vancouver would pay the highest surcharges as the country's largest airline tries to recoup soaring costs for jet fuel.

    Air Canada applied the surcharge to transborder flights to the United States on Thursday, matching similar moves by the big American carriers. It added the surcharge to domestic trips Friday.

    The new surcharges are $40 return for flights of less than 480 kilometres, $80 return on flights between 480 kilometres and 1,600 kilometres and $120 for longer flights.

    The fuel surcharges are effective immediately on all flights booked, the airline says.

    On Thursday, the three biggest U.S. air carriers, American Airlines, United Airlines and Delta Air Lines, raised fares to improve their finances.

    With the price of oil soaring to record highs, Air Canada decided for the first time in four years to no longer include fuel costs in base fares.

    International tickets already have fuel surcharges, but those rates are adjusted case by case.

    It wasn't immediately clear whether other Canadian carriers will apply similar surcharges.

    Calgary-based WestJet Airlines (TSX: WJA), the No. 2 airline, and Porter Airlines, which flies from the Toronto Island Airport to domestic and U.S. cities, are studying the move.

    WestJet also hasn't followed Air Canada's lead of charging the $25 for second checked bags on North American flights for the cheapest fares.

    "The cost of everything is going up due to the rapid and unprecedented rise in the price of oil and we are no exception," Air Canada spokeswoman Isabelle Arthur said in an e-mail Friday.

    "The situation for airlines is compounded by the fact jet fuel prices have risen even more and as of this week are up 78 per cent from a year ago."

    Incorporating fuel costs within fares is no longer workable because of the volatility of fuel prices. On Friday, the world price of oil increased to a record US$126.20 per barrel.

    Without the surcharges, fares would have to be changed daily, confusing customers, Arthur added.

    Air Canada said the new fuel surcharges won't allow the Montreal carrier to recoup the full added cost of fuel. The airline's fuel bill increased by $130 million in the first quarter from the same period a year earlier. That number is expected to increase by more than $220 million in the coming quarter, intensifying pressure for the carrier to add more charges or reduce costs.

    Overall, Air Canada lost $288 million in the first quarter, more than eight times the $34 million loss for the same period in 2007, when oil prices were about half of today's levels.

    Airlines around the world have been racing to boost airfares, tack on surcharges, and charge for amenities such as extra bags and legroom as they struggle to cope with soaring world energy prices. Many airlines now count fuel as their biggest cost.

    The price of jet fuel, like gasoline, has risen rapidly along with the price of crude. A gallon on the spot market in New York was selling for US$3.57 – or 94 cents a litre – this week. That's up about 78 per cent from this time last year.

    At the same time, carriers are cutting back on flights to reduce costs and maintain their pricing power as the economy slows. Even so, analysts expect many large carriers to post large losses this year.


    I understand rising fuel costs. I can even understand raising cost of airfare to match it. I do not understand the concept of "fuel surcharges", other than they are deceptive and condemnable.

    PS: Don't even get me started on this Tango, Tango Plus, Latitude, etc bull**** they have for "fare classes".
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    So you'd pay with no complaints if they included the extra fuel cost in the prices, hidden from view?
    You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Krill
      So you'd pay with no complaints if they included the extra fuel cost in the prices, hidden from view?
      Do you seriously believe the $120 per ticket covers the entire cost of fuel?

      It's bull****.

      They advertise in papers things like "$79 Toronto to Calgary". By the time you book it, it's $400 due to sur-charges and fees and taxes they apply.

      That's what's deceptive.
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      • #4
        free market
        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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        • #5
          Oh, I agree with you, false advertising laws ought to cover it, but unfortunately it really is there in the small print. I wish they'd chage the laws applicable but hey, they're politicians, you can't expect them to do anything smart, can you...
          You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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          • #6
            BTW, Air Canada also recently added a $35 optional fee for "prioritized customer service".
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            • #7
              Originally posted by chegitz guevara
              free market
              It's not a free market -- look into the history of Air Canada.

              It was a crown corporation (government owned) that drove its privatized counterpart out of business, leaving it the entire market to itself.
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              • #8
                Other "features" Air Canada has now:

                Want to collect frequent flier miles? Add $3.
                Want to pick your seat in advance? Add $20.
                Want to check a second bag? Add $25.
                Want prioritized customer service? Add $35.
                Want to be able to cancel or change your flight at all? Add $5.
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                • #9
                  Maybe if Air Canada flew only Airbus planes this wouldn't be a problem.

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                  • #10
                    Thankfully, WestJet exists. Though it's not Air Canada's size yet.

                    I checked out the prices between the two:

                    If I left next Friday and got back the following Monday, Toronto to Calgary round trip in the most basic economy seats possible:

                    Air Canada: $760
                    WestJet: $554

                    Air Canada was already costing more, before the new $120 surcharge.

                    You know the sick thing about this? WestJet is the airline turning a profit here, Air Canada is losing money.

                    This isn't all about fuel, clearly Air Canada's inefficiency plays a huge role in it. The fact that WestJet isn't unionized also helps a lot.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Riesstiu IV
                      Maybe if Air Canada flew only Airbus planes this wouldn't be a problem.
                      They actually just finished getting rid of the Airbus A340 because it was very fuel inefficient...replaced them with more efficient 777s.
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                      • #12
                        Well, at least that is a plus for you Asher, otherwise you'd be paying god knows what in fuel surcharges
                        You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Krill
                          Well, at least that is a plus for you Asher, otherwise you'd be paying god knows what in fuel surcharges
                          Indeed.

                          The whole airbus bull**** is another example. The only reason Air Canada bought Airbus planes was because of government corruption. When Air Canada was privatized and declared bankruptcy, new management came in which immediately started selling off the inefficient Airbus planes the old management just bought...

                          Che gives a thumbs up to free market here, but the Canadian government is directly responsible in many ways for the cluster**** that is the Canadian airline industry.

                          WestJet is the only reasonable Canadian airline. This is because it's in Calgary.
                          Only new, fuel efficient airplanes used...no unions...fantastic service...leather seats...seatback satellite TV on every plane...and it's CHEAPER. And they turn a profit!

                          Air Canada is a poster boy for why governments and unions screw up air travel. WestJet is a poster boy for why true free market airlines work.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Asher

                            They actually just finished getting rid of the Airbus A340 because it was very fuel inefficient...replaced them with more efficient 777s.
                            Everyone knows that is simply not true. I should find my pie chart I made on my sleek new Mac comparing fuel efficiency of the superior A340 with the 777.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Riesstiu IV


                              Everyone knows that is simply not true. I should find my pie chart I made on my sleek new Mac comparing fuel efficiency of the superior A340 with the 777.
                              The A340 is classic European lack of foresight. It's why Europe is no longer a power.
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