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  • On the Proposed Gas Tax Holiday

    According to this page:

    More than 200 economists, including four Nobel prize winners, signed a letter rejecting proposals by presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and John McCain to offer a summertime gas-tax holiday.

    Columbia University economist Joseph Stiglitz, former Congressional Budget Office Director Alice Rivlin and 2007 Nobel winner Roger Myerson are among those who signed the letter calling proposals to temporarily lift the tax a bad idea. Another is Richard Schmalensee of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who was member of President George H.W. Bush's Council of Economic Advisers.

    The moratorium would mostly benefit oil companies while increasing the federal budget deficit and reducing funding for the government highway maintenance trust fund, the economists said.

    ``Suspending the federal tax on gasoline this summer is a bad idea, and we oppose it,'' the letter says. Economist Henry Aaron of the Brookings Institution is among those circulating the letter. Aaron said that while he supports Obama, the list includes Republicans and Clinton supporters.

    The gas-tax suspension has become a flashpoint in the race for the Democrat presidential nomination between New York Senator Clinton and Illinois Senator Barack Obama. Clinton and Republican McCain tout the proposal as an example of their concern for struggling middle-class families. Obama, who estimated it would save the average driver less than $30, calls the idea a ``gimmick,'' rejecting it on similar grounds as the economists.

    Dismiss the Objections

    McCain and Clinton dismissed the objections.

    ``I find people who are the wealthiest who are most dismissive of a plan to give low-income Americans a little holiday'' so they have ``a little more to give to their children and enjoy the summer a little more,'' McCain said today. ``Thirty dollars means nothing to a lot of economists -- I understand that. It means a lot to some low-income Americans.''

    Clinton said yesterday on ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos that ``I'm not going to put my lot in with economists'' because ``we would design it in such a way that it would be implemented effectively.''

    The proposal has been rebuffed by House Democratic leaders including Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California and Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank of Massachusetts.

    The environmental group Friends of the Earth endorsed Obama over the weekend and called Clinton and McCain's moratorium proposals ``sham solutions that won't ease the pain at the pump.''

    Rivlin, who headed the CBO before running the White House budget office during the Clinton administration, was among the Clinton backers signing the letter.

    ``I don't have to agree with everything she says, and I think she was wrong on this one,'' Rivlin said in an interview today. ``If anything, we need higher gas taxes.''
    Which side do you fall on? McCain/Clinton or Obama. Helpful to average citizens or token pandering to get votes?

    Personally, my family will not be affected greatly by any stretch-we drive a civic primarily and don't have any driving trips scheduled for the summer.

    OTOH, I think the lowest rung of drivers will benefit from this (ie pizza delivery guys) substantially.

    Fundamentally, it doesn't do anything more than temporarily reduce costs that are still astronomically higher than just a few years ago.

  • #2
    Since when can candidates for office promise and deliver such things before the election?
    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Wezil
      Since when can candidates for office promise and deliver such things before the election?
      It is curious, isn't it.

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      • #4
        It appears to be blatant pandering to me.
        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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        • #5
          Gas Tax Holiday is stupid.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Wezil
            Since when can candidates for office promise and deliver such things before the election?
            Since they're already in an office?
            <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
            I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

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            • #7
              It's moronic- it'll cut the amount of money in the already beleaguered highway trust fund and the stores will just pocket it.
              If you look around and think everyone else is an *******, you're the *******.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by snoopy369


                Since they're already in an office?
                Okay, that covers the promise part of it I guess.

                Are their official positions such that they can deliver?
                "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                • #9
                  They are leading Senators, such that they can propose legislation with a reasonably good chance it will pass... so, yes?

                  God knows I hope they don't, but ...
                  <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
                  I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

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                  • #10
                    It has no chance of passing.
                    "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                    -Bokonon

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                    • #11
                      Promises of any politician other than the one in control of a majority are basically baloney, and even the ones in control are lies. God I hate democracy sometimes, at least in a despotism you know for sure that you have no rights
                      You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                      • #12
                        Certainly I hope it does not pass, but I suspect they could make it happen if they wanted to. It's too hard to vote against.
                        <Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
                        I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.

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                        • #13
                          Arrian is right about USian fiscal responsibility...
                          You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                          • #14
                            Any reasonably controversial legislation needs 60 votes in the Senate for cloture. Combine the weight of influential opinion against the idea, the Dems lack of motivation to hand the GOP nominee a major victory (and the presumptive Dem nominee a major loss), and opposition from the WH, and you get a bill very likely to fail.
                            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                            -Bokonon

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                            • #15
                              Well, roack and a hard place, either they get their act together and pass it, or they fail and help the economy. They can hardly **** this one up, can they?
                              You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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