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    Mosquito!

    High-pitched device serves as teen repellent

    But the gadget has some civil liberties groups making noise

    By Erin Conroy

    The Associated Press

    updated 6:27 p.m. ET, Wed., April. 23, 2008

    NEW YORK - A wall-mounted gadget designed to drive away loiterers with a shrill, piercing noise audible only to teens and young adults is infuriating civil liberties groups and tormenting young people after being introduced into the United States.

    Almost 1,000 units of the device, called the Mosquito, have been sold in the United States and Canada after the product debuted last year, according to Daniel Santell, the North America importer of the device sold under the company name Kids Be Gone.

    The high-frequency sound has been likened to fingernails dragged across a chalkboard or a pesky mosquito buzzing in your ear. It can be heard by most people in their teens and early 20s who still have sensitive hair cells in their inner ears. Whether you can hear the noise depends on how much your hearing has deteriorated — how loud you blast your iPod, for example, could potentially affect your ability to detect it.

    "It's horrible, loud and irritating," said, Eddie Holder, 15, who sprinted from his apartment for school one morning covering one ear with his hand to block out the noise. The device was installed outside the building to drive away loiterers. "I have to hurry out of the building because it's so annoying. It's this screeching sound that you have to get away from, or it will drive you crazy."

    Cruel or effective?

    The device has already roiled civil liberties groups in countries where it's already in use, including England, Australia and Scotland. England's government-appointed Children's Commission proposed a ban. They describe it as a weapon that infringes on the basic rights of young people, and claim it could even have unknown long-term health effects.

    The $1,500 device has also been challenged in some American cities and towns that have proposed installing it, with some criticizing the tactic as needlessly cruel.

    Santell said the noise can be heard by animals and babies, but is bothersome only to children older than 12 and becomes unbearable after several minutes, making it a perfect teen-repellent. The same sound is also used as a cell phone ring tone by deaf adults, and is a popular download on the Internet.

    The town of Great Barrington, Mass., banned the device last year after a movie theater owner installed one.

    "There was an outcry, and people didn't like the idea of torturing kids' ears like that," said Ronald Dlugosz, a town official. "People here don't tolerate that kind of stuff."

    Milford, Conn., faced similar resistance when the city announced plans to install the Mosquito in a park. They increased police patrols instead.

    Elsewhere, there have been few or no complaints. A mall in Maryland announced plans to introduce the buzz to disperse skateboarders, and officials and police said they haven't had any outcry. A school district in Columbia, S.C., recently installed one on the front grill of a school vehicle and another in a parking lot where students gather after high school games, with no complaints.

    "We'd have crowds gather in parking lots, and there'd be the usual trash talk, then you'd have fights," said Rick McGee, the school district's emergency services manager. "Now there's no confrontation at all, they just get aggravated and leave within a few minutes."

    Santell, the device's marketer, said most of the company's inquiries are from major corporations and government agencies looking for a way to protect private property. Overseas, complaints arose when the device was projected into public spaces, like sidewalks.

    Santell said it does not violate any noise ordinances, but added that the company will soon be selling the same product with a higher "power," or decibel output, that will only be sold to government agencies.

    An end to loitering

    Carmen Ramirez, superintendent of the New York apartment building where Eddie Holder lives that recently installed the Mosquito, described it as "a miracle."

    "We used to have young men here all of the time, bothering people in the building and doing illegal things," said Ramirez, 50. "As soon as we put it up, they were gone, and they haven't been back. If they return, we'll just put up more."

    A spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union said the organization does not yet have a position on the issue. But James Alan Fox, a criminologist at Boston's Northeastern University, said crowd-monitoring devices in the hands of private businesses and citizens is "dangerous."

    "There is a significant problem with giving people a tool like this and empowering the public to take over the tasks of law enforcement," Fox said. "It can certainly be used in a way that's inappropriate, and without a doubt it will be."

    Nobody at Holder's apartment building could say where the loitering kids had gone after the Mosquito was installed.

    "I just deal with it, but I can't be around here for too long," Eddie Holder said. "If I am going to stand around somewhere, it won't be here."
    Let me say something, and I am completely serious:

    It ain't noise pollution because only people who can't vote can hear it.
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  • #2
    Do teenagers who work pay taxes?
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    • #3
      Doesn't matter. Teenagers are parasites and are years and years away from repaying the investment society has given them.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by DaShi
        Do teenagers who work pay taxes?
        At their parents rate.
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        • #5
          Teenagers who work pay taxes at their own rate, afaik. I did, anyway. You just don't get to deduct yourself
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          • #6
            This is the 3rd thread about this.
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            • #7
              *ignores troll*
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              • #8
                Good. I didn't like teenagers even when I was one.
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                • #9
                  This system has made quite an outcry over here a few weeks back.

                  AFAIK, our government hasn't decided to ban it, despite such a system being radically against our constitution.
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                  • #10
                    You have a constitutional right to loiter?
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                    • #11
                      I'm wait for someone to sue the maker for damaging their hearing/causing migraines etc
                      You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                      • #12
                        They'd have to stay where they weren't wanted long enough for that to happen.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #13
                          AS in the other thread, those nasty teens have adapted this tech for their own uses- as a ring tone that they can hear but adult can't. Used for getting text/email during classes.

                          So win-lose.
                          I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                          I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Spiffor
                            This system has made quite an outcry over here a few weeks back.

                            AFAIK, our government hasn't decided to ban it, despite such a system being radically against our constitution.
                            So is a bar playing punk music unconstitutional ?
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                            • #15
                              I think i'd be easier to put them into labor camps if they are not quiet, that would teach them ... no silly devices needed
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