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  • Maliki to Sadr: Disband your militia or else

    Iraqi leader warns Sadr movement

    Shia Iraqis have marched in support of Moqtada Sadr
    Iraq's prime minister has threatened to exclude the supporters of radical cleric Moqtada Sadr from politics.

    Nouri Maliki told CNN that the cleric's movement would not be allowed to take part in elections unless it disbanded its militia, the Mehdi Army.

    The prime minister and major Iraqi parties had already called for militias to be dissolved as the government waged a security campaign against the groups.

    But it was the first time that Mr Maliki had singled out the Mehdi Army.

    Aides to Moqtada Sadr on Monday said he would disband the militia if senior Shia religious leaders ordered him to do so.

    They said a delegation would be sent to discuss the issue with the top Shia cleric in Iraq, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, and a grand ayatollah based in Iran.

    Growing confrontation

    In his interview, Mr Maliki said: "A decision was taken... that they no longer have a right to participate in the political process or take part in the upcoming elections unless they end the Mehdi Army.

    "Solving the problem comes in no other way than dissolving the Mehdi Army."

    We have opened the door for confrontation, a real confrontation with these gangs

    The provincial elections are scheduled for later this year.

    Mr Maliki took power with the help of Moqtada Sadr, but broke with the cleric last year.

    The BBC's Adam Brookes in Baghdad says the confrontation between the two men is growing.

    Two weeks ago the prime minister sent thousands of troops into the city of Basra to try to force the Mehdi Army into submission.

    The militia withdrew from the streets, but the operation was inconclusive.

    Mr Maliki said the government would continue the crackdown. "We have opened the door for confrontation, a real confrontation with these gangs, and we will not stop until we are in full control of these areas," he said.

    An MP for the Sadr bloc, Liqaa Aal Yassin, told the BBC Arabic service that two delegations would be sent - to Grand Ayatollah Sistani in Najaf and Grand Ayatollah Kazem al-Husseini al-Haeri in Iran - to discuss the possible disbanding of the Mehdi Army.

    Ms Yassin said the government was also sending a delegation to Moqtada Sadr to discuss Mr Maliki's demand.

    Mr Maliki's comments came after heavy fighting between US and Iraqi forces and the Mehdi Army at the weekend.

    At least 22 people were killed and more than 50 others injured in clashes in the capital's eastern district of Sadr City, a stronghold of the militia.

    Five US soldiers were killed, including three who died during rocket and mortar attacks in Baghdad.

    Two of those died in attacks on the heavily-fortified Green Zone.

    Moqtada Sadr has called for a mass demonstration on Wednesday against the US military presence.
    Good ultimatum Either Sadr is part of the goverment or he is not. If he is, then he doesn't need his own army. If he is not, then he doesn't get to run for office.

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    Maliki must figure that he can take em.
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    • #3
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      Stop being mean to the Palestinians or else.
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      • #4
        The other thread said Sadr already won, this can not be

        I am a bit split on this. While the militia is troublesome to say the least, at least it is controled to some extent.. I wonder what 10K+ armed young men now beholden to nobody will do (we saw what happened once before already).
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        • #5
          Either Sadr is part of the goverment or he is not. If he is, then he doesn't need his own army. If he is not, then he doesn't get to run for office.


          \Everyone else in the government has their own militias. It's just that they're being paid by the state. The Sadrists don't have that luxury.

          What we're seeing is an attempt to disenfranchise the Shia underclass (the Sadrists would likely make up tons of ground in free and fair elections, given that they previously boycotted the provincial elections).

          I sure am glad we're spending so much money and blood trying to defend this government.
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          • #6
            The other thread said Sadr already won, this can not be


            Why can't it be? How is this inconsistent with Sadr beating the Maliki in Basra?
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            • #7
              I'd say it's actually pretty consistent.

              Japan to USA:

              Stop dropping those atomic bombs on us or else!
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              • #8
                Canada to USA:

                Decrease the tariffs on our lumber or else!

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                • #9
                  Exactly.
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                  • #10
                    Given how theIraqi army was defeated and routed across the country last time what he's really saying is "Disband or I'll tell the US to kick your ass".
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                    • #11
                      Given how theIraqi army was defeated and routed across the country last time


                      Who took territory from who during all out fighting again? Which side ran back to their homes? Exactly.

                      This is the next logical step for Maliki to make having defeated Sadr in the field.

                      I understand you though O, you need to muddy the playing field a bit before Petreaus testifies and pounds your face into it
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                      • #12
                        Militia isn't that great anyway. Better to get Phalanx asap /lamecivjoke
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                        • #13
                          It will certainly be interesting to see what Ali al-Sistani has to say on this issue.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Patroklos




                            Who took territory from who during all out fighting again? Which side ran back to their homes? Exactly.

                            This is the next logical step for Maliki to make having defeated Sadr in the field.

                            I understand you though O, you need to muddy the playing field a bit before Petreaus testifies and pounds your face into it
                            routed wasn't my word. It was the word used by CNN and MSNBC and I linked to both in the thread I started about that.

                            Nice to know you can always be counted on to say something stupid though.
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                            • #15
                              routed wasn't my word. It was the word used by CNN and MSNBC and I linked to both in the thread I started about that.
                              Its nice to see that you agree none of the three correspond to observed reality

                              Obviously since CNN and MSNBC reported it, you still believe 10K people actually did die in Katrina So explain to us how you can gain territory and be routed.
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