What should I do with this job offer?

[onodera]

Right now I'm employed by an international bank and labour away in its IT department in a team that is implementing a new automated banking system. The bosses like me, the coworkers are a nice bunch of people, and I like the work I do. The pay is nice too, especially for someone who graduated less than a year ago.

But yesterday I received an offer from the payments department. There's a small section there that is responsible for organizing the whole business process of payments processing and it needs a new member. That'd be me. The job they offer is quite interesting, and the salary will be almost 1.5 times as much as I earn in the IT right now.

My current bosses value me and are happy to give me a raise to make me stay, but I don't think they can: I started out somewhat undervalued (I was a college student with no work experience), then got a camouflaged raise under the guise of a monthly bonus for taking part in that ABS project, a nice annual bonus, and my real raise was already over the corporate limits and was given only two months ago. As I've said already, my current salary is already pretty nice.

What should I do? I like my current job, but damn, it's a bloody huge raise I can get if I move to the payments dept.
Is spoiling the relationship with the people who pushed the envelope to give me my current salary and generally like me, leaving my colleagues and friends in the IT not worth the money, or am I too empathic and I actually should leave them behind like a rocket that discards its stages when it uses up the fuel?

I would feel better if the offer came from a rival bank, because right now I'd see the IT crowd every day and would actually interact with them regarding the implementation of payments in that ABS i'm currently implementing.

I don't know what to do. Have any of you been in the same situation? What have you done? Do you regret it?

[LordShiva]

Follow teh money

[Wiglaf]

Hit it and quit it

[LordShiva]

**** it and chuck it

[snoopy369]

Do you think you'll enjoy the job in the payments department? Enjoying working where you do is as important as the money - sometimes more - as long as the money's enough. Move there if you need/want the extra money significantly, and think you will enjoy the work (particularly if that is where you want your career to go). If it's just extra money and something you won't necessarily enjoy, don't do it. You'll get more money as you progress in your profession, but if you hate the people you work with, you will not perform as well and won't move up, and will eventually leave. Loyalty matters, and if your boss is loyal to you, you will do better in the long run - especially if you show loyalty by staying in the face of more money.

Once you nearly make up your mind, and if your boss is someone you can talk to, talk to him/her and talk it over. Make it clear you're not asking for more money, just need to talk to someone else about it. That way you're not backstabbing anyone, you're up front about the move and the reasons for it. Either way - whether you accept it or not - you should talk about it, because you might learn something, and honesty is always best, in the long run.

[BlackCat]

Wich unit get most bribes from the mafia ?

Nah, seriously, wich has the best potential for your future wishes ? Whatever wich, go for that - money aren't all unless you need them here and now.

Oh, and listen to snoopy - he makes a lot of sense.

[Riesstiu IV]

Take the job, use your powers to blackmail members of the company, become an influential oligarch, and eventually you will become happy onodera, President of Russia.

[-Jrabbit]

The younger you are when you move to higher pay levels, the more it multiplies throughout your career. Establish a track record of being worth more and it will literally pay dividends.

Go to your current manager to discuss the situation. I would be surprised if s/he doesn't recommend you take the new gig. Most companies have a policy of encouraging internal advancement. In fact, there are often policies against pirating people from other depts. without warning.

So basically, yeah, snoop's got it right.

[Wiglaf]

He's in Russia, the only policy is corruption and piracy. Companies in fact go out of their way to steal their own employees and their rupees at every opportunity.

[snoopy369]

Rupees are India, Wiglaf.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by LordShiva
Follow teh money

[Blake]

Is spoiling the relationship with the people who pushed the envelope to give me my current salary and generally like me, leaving my colleagues and friends in the IT not worth the money, or am I too empathic and I actually should leave them behind like a rocket that discards its stages when it uses up the fuel?

I am completing my current work contract before becoming a Buddhist Monk.

Money wont bring you happiness. Nor will doing things regretfully.

That is why I can't become a Monk yet, even though I want to more than anything else in the world. I'd regret it, and so it wouldn't bring me happiness...

All you need to do to be happy, is to not ever do anything you regret, and not ever not doing something you'd regret not doing.

I know it sounds cheesy, but a(nother) Buddhist once said to me when I had similar conflict "Regret always comes from the heart". You KNOW that regret points to what you TRULY want deep down, not just what the whole shallow reward/punishment scheme of the world is trying to get you to do. You can verify this for yourself, the regret feels real, the promises of money feels empty.

That means that regrets must be confronted head on.

You can always just communicate with your co-workers about it. If they are happy for you, instead of resentful of your success, then you've nothing to regret in leaving.
If you treat it as deserting them, then you WILL suffer. And if you ignore their heartfelt pleas for you to stay, you'll suffer. Hahah. But you need to talk, it'll make things so much clearer. Never run away from anything.

My current bosses value me and are happy to give me a raise to make me stay, but I don't think they can:

Final thing. Your reason is all very well and good, but it's only applicable if reality ACTUALLY works like that.
In reality, it might be much easier than you imagine... (and I've always found this to be true, things are always easier than I imagine)
You can only know if you ask.

[Riesstiu IV]

Yeah, and making pebble zen gardens and praying for hours a day doesn't sound like much fun either.

Money in itself isn't fun but many leads to happiness. I.E. hookers, drugs, luxury goods, hit contracts, etc.

[Zoid]

Originally posted by LordShiva
Follow teh money

Follow your heart. Money isn't everything...

[onodera]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Go to your current manager to discuss the situation. I would be surprised if s/he doesn't recommend you take the new gig. Most companies have a policy of encouraging internal advancement. In fact, there are often policies against pirating people from other depts. without warning.

Both my immediate superior and the department manager don't want me to leave. I've already discussed the offer with them. My immediate manager is sure they should try to match the offer as I'm worth the new salary in her eyes, but the whole process of giving raises is in the hands of our HR dept.

Also, I think we need a wordfilter on Poly that will replace Buddhism and Buddhist with something funny.