Iran applauds life achievement of arch-terrorist

[Sirotnikov]

They consider the Israelis as a people to be militant invaders of their soil

false.

They consider the Jews everywhere as treacherous people, the sons of monkeys and persecutors of Islam.

You're buying into the western version of their propoganda - instead you should listen to their speeches in Arabic.

, as they do not acknowledge the legitimacy of the British grant of land to Israel,

FALSE
the grant of land was by the League of Nations, given to britain that was supposed to put it in place. Britain did its part by NOT doing what it was told, and splitting the entire trans-jordan (some 70% from the original mandate) to a saudi-origin king.

and thus consider their entire populations to be non-civilian; just as the Israelis generally consider Palestinians non-civilian when it suits their needs.

Are you seriously suggesting Israeli airplanes are seeking out women and children, or do you think we have spare 20K$ bombs?

I don't agree with their opinions or their actions, but I don't see why it should be a surprise that they support this guy, who is to them a freedom fighter, fighting the invading Israelis. Particularly when the latter make little attempt to prove themselves as anything other than a land-hungry aggressive expansionist ...

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[snoopy369]

They are most certainly not acts of war. If they were, they wouldn't be terrorist actions, they'd be acts of war, and governed by a rather different set of rules The point stands - when you order a house bombed that you believe houses terrorists, how sure do you need to be? 70%? 80%? 90%? How sure do you think they actually are (and by 'sure' I mean 'have verified evidence', not 'believe in their heart')?

Certainly the GW comparison is exaggerated, but for a reason: to emphasize that you are putting your personal point of view, and spin, on this where Iranians might feel very differently. There were hundreds of thousands of people in Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki who were innocent - quite possibly even who did not believe in the war their government was waging on their 'behalf' - who were slaughtered, and there are undoubtedly numerous palestinians, afghans, Iraqis, etc. who are killed every month who may well believe in the cause of the side who killed them (and by that I mean the US/Israel/Peace/etc.). Clearly we don't explicitly define everyone who kills a few innocent civilians a terrorist - only the ones on the other side...

[Patroklos]

I think the people of Dresden, Nagasaki, and Hiroshima might disagree with that statement. I'm not saying that it wasn't quite possibly the right thing to do in terms of saving American lives

That was actually more in response to the inevitable lame "ISREAL IS THE NEW NAZIS HOW IRONIC" comments that have, predictable, shown up.

In any case, in all three examples there were in fact very real military targets destroyed, in no way shape or form was the primary objective to kill as many civilians as publically and brutally as possible. In fact, had those three targets been completely devoid of civilians that soituation would have probably been preferable. There were certainly more appropriate targets if the death toll was the concern.

What was the last legitimate Palestinian military target? When was the last time they even bother pretending there was a objective besides civilian body counts?

[Lancer]

Wasn't there a ceremony you guys could have bombed?

[germanos]

Re: Iran applauds life achievement of arch-terrorist

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gv5cH6eMNHuancO2-CQVl4nrt7rQD8VAOI800

You are making a fuzz over a stamp?

[Lancer]

No, but a ceremony for one terrorist likely has a bunch more. If intel can confirm this it becomes a worthwhile and legitimate target.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
All your going to get is people attempting to draw false moral eqivilancies between your country and Hezbollah.

You are the expert.

[germanos]

Originally posted by Lancer
No, but a ceremony for one terrorist likely has a bunch more. If intel can confirm this it becomes a worthwhile and legitimate target.

Yeah! lets kill over a stamp.

[Riesstiu IV]

Seems pretty trivial to get worked up over a stamp.

[Lancer]

Originally posted by germanos


Yeah! lets kill over a stamp.

I don't care about the stamp, just the target. I'm for never missing a chance to kill someone whose philosophy is to randomly kill men, women and children. It's just the kind of monster I am.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

A person who has dedicated all of his life to perfecting violence, and targeting innocent people, is not comparable to a statesman like G. Washington. Acts of carnage against innocent population is not the same as waging war on an occupying army.

So I shouldn't expect an Israeli stamp of Ariel Sharon, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qibya_massacre

[Tuberski]

Iran applauds life achievement of arch-terrorist

What? He survived after the bomb went off?

ACK!

[dannubis]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Full stop.

Sure, for you...

[Dinner]

Originally posted by germanos


Yeah! lets kill over a stamp.

Kill over a stamp? No. Bomb a host of known terrorist targets? **** yeah.

[BeBMan]

Never heard about this Commander Stamp