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    In the face of a mounting threat to the British bees, the UK won't spend £8 million to save them.

    British apiarists are demanding the government stump £8m for a research project aimed at saving the nation's honeybees from extinction - something they say will happen within 10 years if cash is not found to investigate "new treatments and drugs" for ailing populations.

    Tim Lovett, president of the British Beekeeping Association, explained: "Beekeeping is still reeling from the varroa mite, which carries a number of viruses and which devastated thousands of hives across the country when it reached Britain 10 years ago. Now there is a real danger that colony collapse disease - which has wiped out 80 per cent of bees in parts of the US - will appear in this country. Unless we develop effective protection, there could then be massive losses of bees across the country."

    Colony collapse disease, aka Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD), has manifested itself Stateside as colonies' older bees died, "leaving behind the queen and young workers not yet ready to forage for pollen and nectar and insufficient in number to maintain the colony".

    The cause is unknown, and various theories point to harmful pesticides, increased solar radiation, falling queen fertility, unauthorised bee treatments, mobile phone mast radiation or the the single-celled fungus Nosema ceranae.

    Whatever the cause, the implications of CCD are serious. Honeybees "pollinate ingredients in about a third of the food consumed in the US", prompting ice cream manufacturer Häagen-Dazs to cough up a $250,000 research grant to university researchers in California and Pennsylvania to probe the problem.

    British ministers, however, have insisted they have no cash to fund a British bee-saving programme. According to the Guardian, there are roughly 250,000 honeybee hives in the UK and "a recent estimate by the Department for Farming, Environment and Rural Affairs revealed that bees contribute £165m a year to the economy through their pollination of fruit trees, field beans, and other crops".

    Although the farming minister, Lord Rooker, admitted to the House of Lords that without action "the honeybee population could be wiped out in 10 years", Lovett said the minister had written to the British Beekeeping Association "saying there was no money available for a research programme".

    Lovett said: "The pollinating of farmers' crops carried out by our bees is provided free of charge. Over five years that work raises £800m for the nation. We are asking for an £8m research programme to save our bees to run for five years. That is one per cent of the money our bees generate."

    The British Beekeeping Association now plans to lobby MPs, start a letter-writing campaign, and take its concerns directly to the House of Commons with a protest meeting.
    Gone within 10 years, without urgent research funding

  • #2
    Maybe they can take a collection
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    • #3
      Didn't read the article since I don't have my tinfoil hat around and don't want to be brainwashed by the secret message hidden in there. What's with all the bees disappearing? Isn't there some big mystery about it in the US as well?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BeBro
        Didn't read the article since I don't have my tinfoil hat around and don't want to be brainwashed by the secret message hidden in there. What's with all the bees disappearing? Isn't there some big mystery about it in the US as well?

        Essentially, they've been inbred to where they no longer have an immune system. Pure and simple.

        We don't need more treatment or drugs, or research. You need to genetically diversify the bees instead of inbreeding them to produce larger and larger quantities of honey.

        Colony collapse disorder is not effecting the bees in Mexico that have been purposely crossbred with Africanized honeybees. The results are a species not as aggressive as the "killer bees", is resistant to disease, and mites, and produces enough honey to be economically viable as well.


        The whole "Pollination will cease and we'll all starve" nonsense is pretty naive as well. Native north american species actually polinate much more efficiently than the honeybees. You just don't get enough honey to make them economical for that reason. But if faced with a crisis of polination, they'ld do the job.

        (entomology is a hobby)
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        • #5
          Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx

          Colony collapse disorder is not effecting the bees in Mexico that have been purposely crossbred with Africanized honeybees. The results are a species not as aggressive as the "killer bees", is resistant to disease, and mites, and produces enough honey to be economically viable as well.
          I recall a program that said the "killer bees" produce far less honey of inferior quality than the European bees. No I'm not racist. They're just bees, damnit. And also that the African bees have dominant genes, so that cross-bred bees are mostly African.

          Can't they just cross-breed British and American bees?
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          • #6
            Why is this a government problem? Doesn't the pollination industry have a trade association?
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • #7
              Y'know, Dan, sometimes it's okay to ask the govt for help. That's what it's supposed to do.
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              • #8
                Never said it was a problem. But there's nothing alarming when the government says no.

                Since when have we all become appendages of the government? Have we lost all sense of civil society?
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Theben


                  I recall a program that said the "killer bees" produce far less honey of inferior quality than the European bees. No I'm not racist. They're just bees, damnit. And also that the African bees have dominant genes, so that cross-bred bees are mostly African.

                  Can't they just cross-breed British and American bees?
                  Yes, the cross-bred bees produce LESS honey than pure European Bees, but the key is it's enough to be economically viable.

                  The problem with breeding with the Native American bees is that the Native American bees completely lack the genes that cause them to hoard honey, they only produce what they need. They also only have a couple hundred workers, as opposed to thousands, those workers just tend to visit more flowers in a single trip, and thus pollinate better. Africanized bees still produce extra honey, just not as much, and breed thousands of workers, so it makes them a better fit for crossbreeding.

                  As for honey quality, that's based mostly on what they are taking the pollen from, which is why you have some beekeepers making honey, and some only doing pollination contracts. European bees, you set em in a field of strawberries, they'll stay in that field. Africanized ones have a wider range, but the crossbred ones have shown a tendency to stay put like their european cousins.
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                  • #10
                    Are there Indian bees? They're probably teh best ones
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LordShiva
                      Are there Indian bees? They're probably teh best ones

                      Can India afford bees?
                      I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Theben
                        Y'know, Dan, sometimes it's okay to ask the govt for help. That's what it's supposed to do.
                        To save bees?
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                        • #13
                          The last thing we need is more killer bees.
                          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                          • #14


                            The crossbreed with africanized honey bees does not create more killer bees, it creates superior bees that are LESS aggressive.

                            Trust the experts on this one...
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                            • #15
                              Nope. Cross breeding normally produces more killer bees since the killer part is dominant. It's the main reason why two African bee queens could be released in Brazil in the 1950's and today Africanized bees have become the main type of bee in Latin America.
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