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Originally posted by DanS
The Soyuz and Progress are dated, but they are certainly reliable and relatively inexpensive.
The Soyuz and Progress are dated, but they are certainly reliable and relatively inexpensive.
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Which means they're good engineering. Who's going to be the first American in this thread to admit that? -
I thought I was the first.
They're good engineering. They do have some limitations and in 3 or 4 years they'll be obsoleted by American hardware, on the other hand. But you can be sure that both Progress and Soyuz will be flying for years.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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How do you anticipate them becoming obsolete? What will the newer systems do better or at less cost?Originally posted by DanS
I thought I was the first.
They're good engineering. They do have some limitations and in 3 or 4 years they'll be obsoleted by American hardware, on the other hand.Comment
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The SpaceX Dragon capsule mentioned in the article will carry up to 7 passengers, and -- in the cargo configuration -- will have downmass capability. This compares to the Soyuz which carries 3 passengers and Progress which has no downmass capability.
The Russians have been looking for money for years to upgrade Progress and Soyuz. We're talking early Cold War technology here.Last edited by DanS; March 8, 2008, 17:09.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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QFTOriginally posted by Lonestar
I hope you get run over by a train.
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Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Don't go. The polytubbies need you. They look up to you.Originally posted by onodera
I think I'll refrain from comments.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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QFGDMFTOriginally posted by LordShiva
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The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand.Comment
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Ahh for the glory days of Apollo.
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You mean these glory days?Originally posted by Lancer
Ahh for the glory days of Apollo.
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Not particularly, no.
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SMAC referencesOriginally posted by Heraclitus
Don't go. The polytubbies need you. They look up to you.
I'm not going anywhere, don't get your hopes up.
I just didn't want to bash NASA.
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Asher in 3....2....1....
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Yikes! Pretty soon all our base are belong to them!"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!Comment
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soon they'll be singing L'Internationale in Russian at Cape Canaveral
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I can understand that. NASA gets enough bashing from Americans.Originally posted by onodera
I just didn't want to bash NASA.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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