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    Let the "good times" roll.

    Lowest record in house equity since 1945

    By J.W. ELPHINSTONE, AP Business Writer
    1 minute ago



    NEW YORK - Americans' percentage of equity in their homes fell below 50 percent for the first time on record since 1945, the Federal Reserve said Thursday.

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    Homeowners' portion of equity slipped to downwardly revised 49.6 percent in the second quarter of 2007, the central bank reported in its quarterly U.S. Flow of Funds Accounts, and declined further to 47.9 percent in the fourth quarter — the third straight quarter it was under 50 percent.

    That marks the first time homeowners' debt on their houses exceeds their equity since the Fed started tracking the data in 1945.

    The total value of equity also fell for the third straight quarter to $9.65 trillion from a downwardly revised $9.93 trillion in the third quarter.

    Home equity, which is equal to the percentage of a home's market value minus mortgage-related debt, has steadily decreased even as home prices jumped earlier this decade due to a surge in cash-out refinances, home equity loans and lines of credit and an increase in 100 percent or more home financing.

    Economists expect this figure to drop even further as declining home prices eat into the value of most Americans' single largest asset.

    Moody's Economy.com estimates that 8.8 million homeowners, or about 10.3 percent of homes, will have zero or negative equity by the end of the month. Even more disturbing, about 13.8 million households, or 15.9 percent, will be "upside down" if prices fall 20 percent from their peak.

    The latest Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller index showed U.S. home prices plunging 8.9 percent in the final quarter of 2007 compared with a year ago, the steepest decline in the 20-year history of the index.

    The news follows a report from the Mortgage Bankers Association on Thursday that home foreclosures skyrocketed to an all-time high in the final quarter of last year. The proportion of all mortgages nationwide that fell into foreclosure surged to a record of 0.83 percent, while the percentage of adjustable-rate mortgages to borrowers with risky credit that entered the foreclosure process soared to a record of 5.29 percent.

    Experts expect foreclosures to rise as more homeowners struggle with adjusting rates on their mortgages, making their monthly payments unaffordable. Problems in the credit markets and eroding home values are making it harder to refinance out of unmanageable loans.

    The threat of so-called "mortgage walkers," or homeowners who can afford their payments but decide not to pay, also increases as home values depreciate and equity diminishes. Banks and credit-rating agencies already are seeing early evidence of this.

    On Tuesday, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke suggested lenders reduce loan amounts to provide relief to beleaguered homeowners.
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  • #2
    This is just what I need, as a net buyer of real estate for the foreseeable future.

    Thanks for sharing.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      Spec.
      -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DanS
        This is just what I need, as a net buyer of real estate for the foreseeable future.

        Thanks for sharing.
        What? Why would you want your purcase to be net? This is for your personnal house right, Not rental homes?
        Credit is deductable on rental homes, if your purchase is net, you'll be bleeded to death by income taxes.

        Spec.
        -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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        • #5
          Your post doesn't make any sense. I was merely pointing out that I will be buying more real estate than I will be selling. Given this, what do I have to fear from a buyer's market?

          The vast majority of Polytubbies are in my situation, including MrFun.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DanS
            Your post doesn't make any sense. I was merely pointing out that I will be buying more real estate than I will be selling. Given this, what do I have to fear from a buyer's market?

            The vast majority of Polytubbies are in my situation, including MrFun.
            I'm just not on to par with econo english lingo. Hence why I dont participate much in these discussions.

            I though that you ment you wanted to buy houses/rental homes clear of loans, which would be stupid...My mistake.

            Spec.
            -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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            • #7
              DanS has also been consistently saying that the dollar is undervalued. Which is why it just made a jump from having hovered around 1.47 to hovering around 1.52.



              Did you put your money where your mouth was on that one, DanS?
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              • #8
                All of my assets are dollar or yuan-denominated (through H-shares).
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #9
                  Spec, 'net' in economic terms means 'total amount minus deductions' essentially. In terms of profit, for example:

                  Sales: $5.0m
                  Returns: $0.8m

                  Gross Sales: $5.0m
                  Net Sales: $4.2m (Gross/Total sales - returns)

                  You also can use it 'net of X' so in my current example, you would say 'Sales net of returns' or something to that effect.

                  In Dan's case, 'net' means '$ dan buys RE - $dan sells RE > 0'.
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                  • #10


                    Home ownership is within reach

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                    • #11
                      All this equity statistic means is that banks now own a huge number of overpriced homes.

                      It isn't good news. But it doesn't really tell us anything about individual homeowner's equity.
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                      • #12
                        For those who just start making their money, asset deflation is wonderful.

                        Bear markets are the capitalistic way of redistributing wealth, from those who have lots of existing wealth to those with future earning powers.

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