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  • #16
    it's not enough, they should charge more we cannot even afford an expensive fireball with all that money
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Asher


      They could cut off all online services (Windows Live Messenger, live.com, Xbox Live, etc). Prevent all further activations and installations of Windows, Office, etc.

      They can't do anything with the stuff already out there but if they stopped selling the products and halted all services, Europe would feel the sting.

      Not to mention lack of further support in terms of patches for security vulnerabilities. That would be interesting also.
      1. All kinds of Freeware and Linux would become big
      2. Happy Sony (PS3)
      3. More piracy

      Hmm I don't know if that is the effect they would want.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Heraclitus
        1. All kinds of Freeware and Linux would become big
        2. Happy Sony (PS3)
        3. More piracy

        Hmm I don't know if that is the effect they would want.
        I said it would be stupid realistically.

        But I'm not sure if you're aware how much an MS usage ban would devastate businesses and PC gamers.

        Over time there'd be alternatives (Apple / Open Source) but in the meantime there'd be lots of chaos.

        Piracy would be illegal (international law and otherwise), and isn't a viable solution.
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        • #19
          That's why such regulation is important

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          • #20
            Can someone explain to me, in simple terms, what Microsoft did wrong?

            Serious question. I know nothing about this dispute. I'm not really all that sure I care. But that's a lotta money...

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            • #21
              They defied the EU.
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              • #22
                They have paied the price for their lack of vision.
                Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Arrian
                  Can someone explain to me, in simple terms, what Microsoft did wrong?

                  Serious question. I know nothing about this dispute. I'm not really all that sure I care. But that's a lotta money...

                  -Arrian
                  The EU bureaucrats decided MS was charging too much to license Microsoft technologies to other people. They gave MS 120 days to give nebulous "reasonable" pricing. MS didn't give such "reasonable" pricing for several years. The fine is the result of a "daily fine of non-compliance" up to that date.

                  I'm curious where this $2.5B now the EU has stolen from MS is going.
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                  • #24
                    Probably to build public housing for angry Muslim immigrants.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Asher
                      I'm curious where this $2.5B now the EU has stolen from MS is going.
                      I doubt they could do much with it in any case. $2.5B... what is that, like 2000€?
                      Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                      The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                      The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                      • #26
                        They are probably using the money to finance the Airbus A350 XWB development.
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                        • #27
                          Naw, this is the EU we're talking about. Some MEP will just hire a few more family members to do nothing and get paid $20k a month to do it.
                          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Asher

                            The EU bureaucrats decided MS was charging too much to license Microsoft technologies to other people. They gave MS 120 days to give nebulous "reasonable" pricing. MS didn't give such "reasonable" pricing for several years. The fine is the result of a "daily fine of non-compliance" up to that date.

                            I'm curious where this $2.5B now the EU has stolen from MS is going.
                            Not quite. Even a cursory BBC article has more detail and accuracy than that bull****.

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                            And Asher the 2.5 billion is surely going to the judges who decided the antitrust case. Fortunately only you know this, let's hope the media doesn't figure it out

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Asher
                              They are probably using the money to finance the Airbus A350 XWB development.
                              Fixed
                              Blah

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                              • #30
                                For once Wiggy the troll provides a useful link:

                                An investigation concluded in 2004 that Microsoft was guilty of freezing out rivals in products such as media players, while unfairly linking its Explorer internet browser to its Windows operating system at the expense of rival servers.
                                The court ordered MS to make parts of its OS code open so that rivals could make products which would work well with the rest of windows. MS has flatly refused to comply for four years thus the fines.
                                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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