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    Northern Rock is to be nationalised, the BBC's business editor Robert Peston has learned.

    A consortium led by the Virgin group was leading bids to run the beleaguered bank, while a management buyout had also been considered.

    But ministers have decided that nationalisation - the first such move since the 1970s - was the only option.

    "They felt that the offers on the table did not offer enough to the taxpayer," Mr Peston said.

    "It's a momentous moment. Nationalisation has become a dirty word associated with industrial failures of the past," he went on.

    "Financial services, by contrast, have been considered the great British success story - so for such a seemingly growing bank to end up being nationalised is a big moment for the City and a big moment for the government."

    Northern Rock got itself into financial difficulties last year because its business model left it ill-prepared for the global credit crunch.

    It was forced to ask the Bank of England for emergency funding, triggering the first run on a British bank in more than a century.

    Nationalisation will be pushed though parliament with emergency legislation on Monday.

    Shares in Northern Rock will be suspended on Monday morning.

    Under nationalisation rules, shareholders will be offered compensation for their holding, at a level set by a Government-appointed panel.

    Investors could begin legal action if they are unhappy with the amount offered.

    Job threat

    UK taxpayers are now subsidising the bank in loans and guarantees to other lenders to the tune of about £55bn.

    The Treasury now feels that nationalisation offers the most certainty of securing these guarantees, Mr Peston said.

    It is thought that the business model it proposes will be similar to those put forward by the Virgin Group and the in-house management consortium.

    These were likely to see a downsizing of the bank, with job cuts likely, observers say.

    The Treasury had already recruited the former boss of the Lloyd's of London insurance market, Ron Sandler, to lead Northern Rock, in case the bank were nationalised.

    Mr Sandler is widely regarded as having restored confidence in Lloyd's after its years in financial disarray.

    He is well known to Prime Minister Gordon Brown, and worked for the Treasury in developing the so-called stakeholder pension and investment products that were intended to help those on lower incomes save for retirement.

    Chairman of the Commons Treasury Select Committee John McFall said that he welcomed the Government's decision to nationalise.

    "They have explored every avenue. At the end of the day the biggest issue is the safeguarding of taxpayers' money. If nationalisation saves that money, that has to be the correct step in the long term."

    Liberal Democrat treasury spokesman Vince Cable said that the right deicison had been taken, though "belatedly", and that the government should have walked away from the prospect of a private takeover some time ago.

    "The important thing now is to do the right thing and the government has got to immediately establish what the problems are with this bank."
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    This makes Labour look weak and indecisive after the embarassing spectacle of months of looking for a private buyer. Thoughts?

  • #2
    So, it's not an actual rock? England isn't all that big. I was thinking maybe they were expanding the monarchy again.
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    • #3
      Er...Darling had better pull this off.
      You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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      • #4
        South Korea successfully nationalized several companies in the wake of the 1997 Asian financial crisis. They merged several companies in the same field, reorganized them, then either got rid of them via IPOs or sold them off. It saved a lot of jobs and prevented the failure of several key companies. Daiwoo Automotive was one of them.
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        • #5
          I'm Northern and I rock
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          • #6
            It makes sense to me instead of selling it off cheap.
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            • #7
              You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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              • #8
                How many mortgage loans is NR writing during this time period?
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                • #9
                  there's still work coming in for me from northern rock, i think it's business as usual to be honest...
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                  • #10
                    That's the story behind the story. The UK gov't is supporting the housing market by keeping the money flowing...
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                    • #11
                      Brilliant I now own a bank
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                      • #12
                        Re: Northern Rock to be nationalised

                        Originally posted by Sandman
                        This makes Labour look weak and indecisive after the embarassing spectacle of months of looking for a private buyer. Thoughts?
                        Finally, Darling grows some balls. Yes, it was worth looking for a private buyer, but they should have been upfront that any borrowing after February would have to be at the market rate. Northern Rock still has a book value of over 4 times it's share value. It just has no liquidity. The government has the key card - if it calls in (or rather, refuses to extend) the loans, NR goes into administration - and so really it's all about what's best for the taxpayer. And with that kind of value locked up, somebody needs to come along with something that takes the risk away from the government for it to be worthwhile at all. Virgin were way below that, and so Branson's whining that a private sector solution would be better is entirely his own doing - he should have offered more.

                        From a finance point of view, I liked Anatole Kaletsky's idea to simply stop NR trading and just accept the book value. However that wipes out 6000 jobs. Keeping the jobs means working out a level playing field for the government to manage to compete with private companies.

                        Given the alternatives, we've got the best solution, I think. And while there's been a lot of indecisiveness, I can understand why the government was desperate to find a buyer to avoid this, but a buyer at a reasonable price.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DanS
                          That's the story behind the story. The UK gov't is supporting the housing market by keeping the money flowing...
                          Not really, the government aren't about to be writing huge amounts of new mortgage business. The new Executive Chairman is talking about downsizing the bank and selling off assets to reduce the liability. It's just trying to keep it ticking over, to protect the 6000 jobs in a generally deprived region and also reduce the taxpayer liability as quickly as possible. It won't have any effect on house prices - Northern Rock just isn't that big to have much of an impact. Loans it would have written would just go to one of the other banks offering almost identical terms.
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                          • #14
                            So the government bought a bank during a time that the bank would be for sale cheap. sounds like a shrewed investment
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                            • #15
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