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Cause the Clintons need some love.
Cause the Clintons need some love.
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Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila -
Why don't you just have a national primaries where all the party contests are held on the same day and then the results released a day or two later? Why drag this out for so long with states voting on separate days?Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
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That would make too much sense, Starchild. This is America we're talking about...Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-ArmsComment
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QFTOriginally posted by -Jrabbit
That would make too much sense, Starchild. This is America we're talking about...Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Yep, this shows bad character for Clinton I think.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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It's funny that the Dems are disenfranchising Florida voters far more than anybody else has in the past.
/me pulls up a chair with his tub of popcorn, watching Dems trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victoryI came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Yes, how generous of the GOP to disenfranchise only half instead of the whole lot...Originally posted by DanS
It's funny that the Dems are disenfranchising Florida voters far more than anybody else has in the past.Comment
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mccain is going to win this anyway.Comment
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Do people have rights to vote in primaries?Originally posted by DanS
It's funny that the Dems are disenfranchising Florida voters far more than anybody else has in the past.
* DanS pulls up a chair with his tub of popcorn, watching Dems trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victoryI drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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If Clinton gets this done how can you NOT vote for her? After all, if Al Gore showed this much balls in 2000, he'd have been President.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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I wonder if this has anything to do with Clinton's campaign manager quiting.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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I've always found those stories of disenfrachisement to lack credibility.Originally posted by Darius871
Yes, how generous of the GOP to disenfranchise only half instead of the whole lot...
Hey, some stories might be true, but you can be sure that the vast majority of GOP voters live in areas where they don't stand for dishonesty on the matter and where polling works very well. Such is not the case for Dems.
The funny thing for me is to watch the Dems rob each other blind.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I never said anything about 2000. Florida was "penalized" by 50% for holding its 2008 primary early.Originally posted by DanS
I've always found those stories of disenfrachisement to lack credibility.
Hey, some stories might be true, but you can be sure that the vast majority of GOP voters live in areas where they don't stand for dishonesty on the matter and where polling works very well. Such is not the case for Dems.Comment
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Ah, I see. I totally missed that one.
In any event, it seems ridiculous to me to criticize Clinton's minions for suggesting that Florida's voters' wishes should be counted.Last edited by DanS; February 17, 2008, 15:09.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Because the Democratic rules state that any State (except Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina) who holds its primary or caucus before Super Tuesday will not have its delegates seated.Originally posted by DinoDoc
Why shouldn't she at least get Florida? Obama was on the ballot there and lost the state. After all that whining about disenfranchised voters in Florida during the 1st Bush election, why boot the whole state from voting now?
Because all Democratic candidates agreed to these rules.
Because no Democratic candidate campaigned in either State.
Therefore, the fates of Florida and Michigan are in the hands of those two states. If they now choose their candidates in post-Super-Tuesday primaries or caucuses, then their delegates may be seated. Otherwise, the rogue delegates have no place at the convention. 
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