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  • The Recession - Directly Caused by the Bush Administration?

    Quoted from Ahtzib:

    NY Gov. Eliot Spitzer, then AG (which he was better at). An excerpt

    Let me explain: The administration accomplished this feat through an obscure federal agency called the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC). The OCC has been in existence since the Civil War. Its mission is to ensure the fiscal soundness of national banks. For 140 years, the OCC examined the books of national banks to make sure they were balanced, an important but uncontroversial function. But a few years ago, for the first time in its history, the OCC was used as a tool against consumers.

    In 2003, during the height of the predatory lending crisis, the OCC invoked a clause from the 1863 National Bank Act to issue formal opinions preempting all state predatory lending laws, thereby rendering them inoperative. The OCC also promulgated new rules that prevented states from enforcing any of their own consumer protection laws against national banks. The federal government's actions were so egregious and so unprecedented that all 50 state attorneys general, and all 50 state banking superintendents, actively fought the new rules.

    But the unanimous opposition of the 50 states did not deter, or even slow, the Bush administration in its goal of protecting the banks. In fact, when my office opened an investigation of possible discrimination in mortgage lending by a number of banks, the OCC filed a federal lawsuit to stop the investigation.

    Throughout our battles with the OCC and the banks, the mantra of the banks and their defenders was that efforts to curb predatory lending would deny access to credit to the very consumers the states were trying to protect. But the curbs we sought on predatory and unfair lending would have in no way jeopardized access to the legitimate credit market for appropriately priced loans. Instead, they would have stopped the scourge of predatory lending practices that have resulted in countless thousands of consumers losing their homes and put our economy in a precarious position.
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  • #2
    Pretty powerful that all 50 states opposed this reckless & corrupt move by the Bush administration and that these lending practices directly lead to the housing melt down.
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    • #3
      What is this? Did your newsletter come today? Every week, I swear.

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      • #4
        4 MORE YEARS!


        sorry, tradition
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        • #5
          On tv today there was an economist who said that Clinton´s years, the superavit was so great that economists were wondering and speculating on how a world with a USA without debt would be.

          Bush kinda ruined that possibility.
          I need a foot massage

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          • #6
            Bush caused the recession?

            So it wasn't the fact that the world economy is slowing due to rising inflation caused by rising energy and transport prices? Or due to rising inflation meaning people have less money to spend but rising credit causing bad debts and writing off of loans thus undermining the value of several key world currencies? Or even due to rising unemployment and government social responsibilities causing governments around the world to largely over-spend budgets reducing the amount of currency flowing through their local economies which messes with interest rates, stock markets and international debt?

            I understand now. I'll just tell my economics professors in my Uni course they got it wrong.

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            • #7
              Bush's decision on this matter was ****, but you can hardly say that the success during the clinton years and the decline in 2001 was due to the change in presidents. Much of the success in the Clinton years was just the .com bubble, and then it burst leaving sticky stuff all over the wall...

              edit: What Dale said.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
                What is this? Did your newsletter come today? Every week, I swear.
                It's the Washington Post for god's sake.
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                • #9
                  AFAIK, Spitzer is doing a little bit of historical revisionism. The fight was about credit card late fees and the like, not mortgages. The credit card industry wanted a single standard that they could follow, rather than 50 different state laws.

                  It may be that a small part of our current problems in mortgages are an unintended consequence of the battle over credit card late fees. But to be clear, the mortgage banking industry is regulated mainly by the Federal Reserve, which as you may know is independent of the executive branch.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #10
                    It would have taken an intelligence far more advanced than George W. Bush's to have directly caused this recession .
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                      It would have taken an intelligence far more advanced than George W. Bush's to have directly caused this recession .
                      True. The government is not as smart as everyone thinks.

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                      • #12
                        I believe the point of the Washington Post was that this was an unintended consequence and the Bush Administration's policy to pander to big financial donors. In other words a failure of over sight due to their insatiable demands for ever more bribes/"contributions".
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Oerdin
                          I believe the point of the Washington Post was that this was an unintended consequence and the Bush Administration's policy to pander to big financial donors. In other words a failure of over sight due to their insatiable demands for ever more bribes/"contributions".
                          Even accepting all that... it'd be indirectly caused by the administration, don't you think?
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • #14
                            Which is what I said. I copied the thread title from some where else because I knew it was catchy and would get lots of views.
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                            • #15
                              so if somebody argued that the recession WAS directly caused by the Bush Administration you would NOT whole-heartily agree with them then...?
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