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  • Alternative Take on the Subprime Crisis

    There's been some good discussion in Poly of the subprime crisis; I don't even pretend to understand much of it, and I've enjoyed reading the back-and-forth. So I'm wondering if there's any credibility to the article below, which is certainly biased given the author's interests but raises interesting issues nevertheless.

    SUMMARY: The ratio of average US home price to average income has gotten exponentially larger over the past 40 years; since the standard 30-year, fixed rate mortgage was predicated on a relatively small home-cost-to-income ratio, fewer and fewer people are qualifying for standard 30-year mortgages. Since the US housing market (to say nothing of US ideology) is predicated on ownership, the only way to deal with the underqualification problem is to offer more and more exotic mortgage instruments. Thus, the subprime crisis is actually the culmination of a 40-year trend.

    Don't Blame Subprimes
    Those Bad Loans Were Just a Response to Our Real Problem

    By Michael Hill
    Monday, February 11, 2008; Page A13

    I am sick of everyone blaming the breakdown in the credit and housing markets on subprime loans. Subprime loans were certainly part of the problem, but they are a symptom of a deeper issue. What's happening in the market today is not the bursting of a five-year bubble but the bursting of a 40-year bubble and the failure of the mortgage loan system to meet the needs of the marketplace.

    The truth is that subprime lenders, by responding to demand, were the finger in the dike for the whole housing market. The real problem is affordability and the incongruity between incomes and home pricing.

    Forty years ago, the median national price of a house was about twice the median household income. In some parts of the country, this ratio was closer to 1 to 1. Twenty years ago, the median home price was about three times income. In the past 10 years, it jumped to four times income.

    But in most major economic centers, typical families haven't been able to buy a home for anything near the national median price for decades. Try to find a single-family home in the D.C. area for the national median of $221,900. In the major markets, there is tremendous dependency on alternatives to the standard 30-year fixed-rate mortgage, which in turn has created a dependency on the least scrupulous mortgage companies and lenders.

    The issue of affordability is not news to the major players in real estate. Each month, lenders, developers and government agencies study the National Association of Realtors' Housing Affordability Index. This index provides a way to track whether housing is becoming more or less affordable for typical households nationwide; it incorporates changes in key variables such as home prices, interest rates and incomes.

    For the most part, the index is excellent for charting the strength of the market. But it has a few big flaws: First, it assumes that a borrower makes a 20 percent down payment and that the maximum mortgage payment is 25 percent of a household's gross monthly income. That used to be standard, but today many buyers can't meet this criteria. Second, it ignores patterns in the overall relationship between incomes and home prices and could therefore miss a growing bubble -- if interest rates are dropping, say, affordability could appear to be stable even if prices are rising and incomes are falling. Lenders, developers and the government could still miss trouble brewing under their noses.

    Another problem is that this index is based on very broad averages. It tracks the whole country and the four major regions (the Northeast, South, Midwest and West). But the gap between the major markets and the national numbers has been widening rapidly, making the national figures all but worthless for millions of Americans. So even if the numbers look good nationally, and they do, housing affordability indexes for metropolitan areas confirm the impression of millions of home buyers -- that homes aren't affordable where the jobs are.

    Consider Silicon Valley, home to much of the driving force for our economy in the '90s. Today the median price of an existing home in Silicon Valley is $775,000, but the median household income there is only $62,020. A home in the area costs almost 13 times annual income. Home prices in that market would have to drop nearly 70 percent or income would have to triple, and interest rates would have to stay low for the price-to-income ratio to reach a more affordable level. Here in the Washington metropolitan area, the median home price is about eight times the median household income. Income-affordability ratios are similarly out of balance in Boston, New York, San Diego and the other areas hit hardest by the current crisis.

    Without mortgage options that provide lower monthly payments than traditional 30-year mortgages, a majority of families cannot afford homes in our nation's major population centers.

    Today's crisis differs greatly from previous housing downturns. In past downturns, the housing market was influenced by and was an indicator of other economic issues. This time, millions of homes have been built around the country during the past few years using a financing option that no longer exists. There may never be enough capacity to absorb all of these homes and other existing homes using 30-year mortgages, because there simply aren't enough people with the incomes to meet the requirements. Prices could not roll back far enough without damaging the economy irreparably.

    The solution is not to be found in a short-term stimulus nor in waiting things out. What is needed is a new standard mortgage product, something as revolutionary today as the 30-year fixed-rate loan was when it was introduced.

    So many people bought into subprime loans because that was all they could afford. Subprime and Alt-A lenders exposed the market demand. Now it is time for more trustworthy capitalists, more focused on long-range outcomes, to meet this demand and reopen the door to homeownership to millions of Americans.

    The writer is president and chief executive of Emerge Homes Inc., a luxury home builder.
    I have no dog in this hunt; I'm just trying to educate myself. But I'd be interested to know whether folks who know more than I do about this think the argument holds water. -- and, if so, what (if anything) should be done about it.
    "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

  • #2
    There are some aspects not raised by this writer, including...

    (1) You can find a single-family home for $225,000 in the Washington, DC area. Just not in the nice areas.

    (2) New houses are about 1.5x as large as they were 30 years ago -- and they are outfitted much more nicely. This despite the fact that families are getting much smaller. So while affordability is lower, that is partly because the middle class is livin' large.

    (3) While the metro areas are expensive, most of the US is not expensive. If people want to have a high quality of life relative to their income, they will move to those areas where it's not expensive. Problem solved. If they insist on fighting the market and live outside their means, that sounds like a personal issue. Nobody guaranteed their lifestyle choice would be a good one.

    (4) New mortgage products are a good idea, but they will have a modest impact. 40-year and 50-year loans with reasonably high down payments are intellectually sound. But the monthly payments on these loans are only slightly less than a 30-year loan. By the way, the 30-year loan became the standard only recently.

    I vote for the waiting things out option personally.
    Last edited by DanS; February 11, 2008, 04:11.
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • #3
      1) Yeah, I can see that. So people are just buying too much house?

      2) But metro areas are where the jobs are, right? median housing prices in Decatur, IL, look mighty affordable, but just how much work is there in Decatur?

      3) I didn't know that; I thought 30-year mortgages were the standard back when my folks bought their one-and-only house, 45 years ago. What were they using instead back then?
      "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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      • #4
        I cross-edited you. Inserted a new #1.
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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        • #5
          30-year loans were introduced by FDR's administration, but AFAIK they didn't become standard until relatively recently. My parents did a 15-year loan in the early 70s. Now it would be pretty difficult to do so, even in Walmart country.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DanS
            I cross-edited you. Inserted a new #1.
            Re that new #1: median houshold income in DC is something like $40k; median income for the area is $75k. So we're still talking about spending 3-6 times one's annual income for a frankly undesireable property. Was it ever thus in DC, or is this a more recent development?
            "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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            • #7
              I think it was probably a lot cheaper once upon a time in DC. But the metro area is completely different than it was even 30 years ago -- much more urban and a different mix of jobs. It doesn't make sense to expect it to be like it was. That's what I think part of the problem is with the writer's opinion -- these cities are huge compared to the way they once were.

              As for the $225k house, it does mean that if people insist on their lifestyle choice, they'll have to be the vanguard of gentrification.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DanS
                As for the $225k house, it does mean that if people insist on their lifestyle choice, they'll have to be the vanguard of gentrification.
                True. But that does mean that, for an ordinary middle-class family, the choice is between buying a house at teh outer edge of their means (if not beyond) or being in the vanguard of gentrification, neither of which used to be what was meant by "American Dream." I think that's really what intrigues me about teh article; that it may be that we, as a nation, should be scaling back our expectations regarding home ownership -- it may be, for example, that my daughter's generation should imagine that owning a home will eb for them the exception, not the rule -- but nobody has the cajones to say that.
                "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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                • #9
                  Well, I think you would have to admit that the American Dream as relates to our major cities is already supremely degenerate. 30 miles from downtown is more expensive than 3 miles from downtown. This is changing for the better in DC, as the reality of the 1960s recedes.

                  Let's put it this way. The housing product is changing all the time. What you buy will not be on offer for your daughter. What she can buy may not have been on offer for you. F.e., the Washington area probably didn't have nearly as many good jobs once upon a time either. It was probably more like Decatur.
                  Last edited by DanS; February 11, 2008, 05:01.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #10
                    The writer is president and chief executive of Emerge Homes Inc., a luxury home builder.
                    A credit pimp: it's in his interest to encourage Americans to go more deeply into dept.

                    OTOH:

                    "As I've said in the past, it's only when the tide goes out that you find who has been swimming naked," Buffett told employees. "Well, the tide has gone out and it has not been a pretty sight."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
                      2) But metro areas are where the jobs are, right? median housing prices in Decatur, IL, look mighty affordable, but just how much work is there in Decatur?
                      There are jobs in low home price areas. One thing about home prices is people expect their home to increase in value so paying a whole bunch for a house is considered a good investment.

                      Another comment, nothing is more dangerous to the financial sector than a trend.
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                      • #12
                        I think that's really what intrigues me about teh article; that it may be that we, as a nation, should be scaling back our expectations regarding home ownership -- it may be, for example, that my daughter's generation should imagine that owning a home will eb for them the exception, not the rule -- but nobody has the cajones to say that.
                        QFT.

                        As DanS has said, the American Dream has morphed from just owning a house to owning a house twice as big as the one you grew up it with a yard, granite countertops, stainless appliances, whirlpool tubs, a pool, etc. etc.

                        As with so many things people were/are living beyond their means. Every time I tell my married freinds looking for houses to buy the three bedroom instead of the four and use tack the money saved doing so onto the down payment they look at me with horror. "And make our daughters SHARE a room!"

                        Another example, the formal dining room. What buisness does a lower middle class family have paying for a 400 extra square feet that they will use twice a year (maybe) and have to spend still more money to funish with expensive but inevitably still tacky furniture? Its that faux luxury mindset. Of course how many houses are they building these days without a formal dining room?

                        Or yet another example, the study. Sure, a great place to put your computer but how many of us even in the upper classes do enough actual work at home to warrant a dedicated space? Is there something wrong with the stool at the kitchen counter or using the kitchen table to do your taxes (which I bet most use for such purposes anyway even if they do have a dedicated study)? Honestly, unless you spend all your freetime writing essays on the life or Plutarch or run a real buisness from home this is another useless luxury.

                        And what is worse is that we all know these are useless luxuries, but you just have to have them to be a successful member of the middle class. If everyone else has useless luxuries and you don't, well we can't have that now can we? The fact is most people should have those two rooms turned into bedrooms and not have built that second story in the first place and thus spent 25% less on their mortgage.

                        Eh, I personaly like small cozy places (though I will pay for a neighborhood I like). It all comes down to expectations.

                        EDIT: A accidently said WTF instead of QFT under the quote. I agree with what I quoted!
                        Last edited by Patroklos; February 11, 2008, 14:05.
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                        • #13
                          In high cost areas the land is what costs the most, so why not build big. In the newer homes there's lots of space inside but the yards are much smaller.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                          • #14
                            I edited some examples into my last post.

                            In high cost areas the land is what costs the most, so why not build big. In the newer homes there's lots of space inside but the yards are much smaller.
                            Because if the land really is that expensive and you are set on buying it, saving 10-20K on the actual house will make the land more afordable to you.
                            "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Peter Triggs
                              http://www.winnipegsun.com/Business/...36629-sun.html
                              Good 'ol Warren. You can rest assured that Warren's sitting flush with cash, now that cash is king.

                              The writer should have had more quotes from him.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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