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    Maglev rail plan for L.A. gets initial OK

    By Rick Orlov, L.A. Daily New Staff Writer

    A massive plan to accelerate transportation in the region with a $26 billion high-speed train system received initial approval from the Los Angeles City Council on Wednesday as it created a joint-powers agreement with neighboring cities.

    The move marked the first step in negotiations to solidify an Atlanta-based firm's proposal to construct a magnetic-levitation train system that would start at the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, run through downtown and eventually reach Ontario Airport.

    Los Angeles City Councilman Greig Smith said American Maglev Technology would foot the bill for the system and has been working with the Southern California Association of Governments on its proposal.

    SCAG is prohibited from working on construction projects and asked Los Angeles to form the joint-powers authority with West Covina and Ontario.

    "Our role will be to make sure all the rights-of-way are secured," Smith said. "All the costs are to be paid for by American Maglev and they said they can complete the first spur in three years from the ports to downtown."

    The move is the latest to try to ease transit in the region.

    The ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach handle roughly 43 percent of the nation's imports and make up the world's fifth-largest port complex, handling some $300 billion worth of goods in 14 million containers every year.

    But more than 16,000 trucks travel through the Los Angeles port every day, clogging the 710 Freeway and other thoroughfares.

    Last year, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger proposed a $15 billion Goods Movement Action Plan, with some 200 projects designed to improve transit in California.

    The recommended projects include operational changes such as staggering the times for vessel departures and arrivals; expanding the labor force at the ports; and using ships rather than rail and trucks to transport goods between Southern and Northern California.

    Infrastructure projects include grade separations along the Alameda Corridor so trains and passenger vehicles do not have to slow down at crossings; widening freeways to the Mexican border; and building truck-only lanes on major trade corridors.

    Meanwhile, a $9.95 billion bond measure is set to be on the November ballot to fund initial work on a 700-mile high-speed rail system from Los Angeles to San Francisco.

    The first phase of that project would begin in Orange County and run through Los Angeles. The measure requires a simple majority vote, a California High Speed Rail authority spokesman said.

    The project the council voted on Wednesday envisions a magnetic-levitation train that is suspended, guided and propelled by electromagnetic force.

    While American Maglev is a relatively new company, it has a prototype system in Atlanta. Company officials did not return calls for comment Wednesday.

    But Alan Wapner, an Ontario council member and head of the SCAG Transportation Committee, said the project has a long way to go before final approval.

    "It hasn't gone under any kind of scrutiny and we aren't sure how valid the proposal is," Wapner said. "American Maglev has proved their technology, but we want to see more on whether it can be done.

    "The advantage they have over other firms is they are offering to pay to build the system."

    Wapner said the firm originally wanted to be involved only in cargo transportation, but SCAG insisted that it include a passenger component.

    "These are things the JPA will look at, but we still have to determine the makeup of that group, who will staff it and how it will operate," Wapner said.

    Smith said American Maglev is hoping to recoup its cost primarily through the transportation of cargo and has plans to extend its north-south line to Barstow, which would allow the city to create a stop at Palmdale International Airport.

    City officials are working with airlines to encourage that the Palmdale facility be used for more cargo operations.

    "Also, we have heard there is interest by Disneyland to try to get a connection to the line and we have also heard some of the tribes in the desert area are interested in working on this," Smith said.

    If the plan moves forward, American Maglev has said it would open a Los Angeles office - it has already formed a local company called EMMI Logistics Solutions Inc. - as a headquarters and would hire 200 people.

    Smith said much of the firm's work also is done in Santa Fe Springs, which could lead to additional local hiring.

    Smith said company officials believe they can build the system at a cost of $13 million to $16 million a mile - about one-third the cost of other companies.

    Councilman Bill Rosendahl, the city's representative on the Southern California Regional Airport Authority, suggested that group also be consulted on the project.

    Smith, who is the city's representative to SCAG, said he has been working on the proposal for more than a year as the regional government agency has studied various ways to develop a rail system through the area.

    Councilwoman Janice Hahn suggested that the Alameda Corridor Authority be brought into the negotiations.

    "I'm not sure this will be built in our lifetime, but maybe, maybe," Hahn said. "This is a very important concept for our region. There is the people aspect to this, but the biggest benefit could be cargo.

    "We all know the truck traffic from the port causes congestion and pollution."

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    Monorail ... Monorail ... Monorail ...
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    • #3
      Maglev for long distances.
      Monorail for shorter.

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      • #4
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        • #5
          Mass transportation is not the American way.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Riesstiu IV
            Mass transportation is not the American way.
            Yeah but its for cargo not people so maybe it's OK.
            Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi Wan's apprentice.

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            • #7
              $13 million to $16 million a mile? Sounds like utter bull**** to me, considering that a subway line costs more than an order of magnitude more than that.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #8
                Bid low and then overshoot the cost estimate, right
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Garth Vader


                  Yeah but its for cargo not people so maybe it's OK.
                  I still don't like. It sounds Russian or something. Must be some kind of Soviet plot to subvert LA.

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                  • #10
                    Even worse, it's a Confederate plot to finally overthrow the Union...
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DanS
                      $13 million to $16 million a mile? Sounds like utter bull**** to me, considering that a subway line costs more than an order of magnitude more than that.
                      $500 million/mile for a subway. --But for one of those, you have to tunnel underground, which is very expensive.

                      Most monorails are $25-50 million/mile, but much of that cost goes to building stations.

                      It sounds like this thing will initially go from LB directly to downtown, so that's only two stations.

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                      • #12
                        At OP: Yeah right.
                        Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                        The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                        The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                        • #13
                          Maglev
                          Mass transit


                          But this is just the initial OK, right? There's plenty of more chances for this plan to get shot down before it sees the light of day, I'd imagine...

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                          • #14
                            I am sure the cargo cars are far cheaper than passanger cars too.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by snoopy369
                              Even worse, it's a Confederate plot to finally overthrow the Union...
                              No you got it wrong. Confederate= Good Commie=bad
                              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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