No Filipinos for Jordan

[Lancer]

I think if I can get enough Americans to marry filipinas I can save them both from the hellish choices some from each group face.

The long term answer for the Philippines must be population reduction. A hundred years ago there were 1/10th the people in these islands, maybe even less. Each family had land and a living, farming, fishing. You could teach someone to fish and feed them for their whole life. These days the bottom feeders are gone, fished out. The migratory fish still pass through but the catch has been declining since the late '80s. The farms have been divided 10 ways among the kids and those kids are now grown and having kids and the land just isn't there to share out.

Just too many people. Can't have national birth control because the Catholic Church fights it...

Wonderful people, totally screwed.

[DanS]

That's a cop out for inept government, Lancer. Malaysia has an almost identical population growth rate, as just one example.

[DirtyMartini]

Originally posted by Lancer
The long term answer for the Earth must be population reduction. Wonderful people, totally screwed.

*fixed

[Patroklos]

Rufus, how many posts have you had, and where?

[LordShiva]

He has 1,711 posts.

[Patroklos]

He has 1,711 posts.

Are here that many countires?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Rufus, how many posts have you had, and where?

Manila and Singapore; Kabul will be my 3rd. I also lived in Ankara for four years before joining State.

[Lancer]

Originally posted by DanS
That's a cop out for inept government, Lancer. Malaysia has an almost identical population growth rate, as just one example.

The govt of the Phils is totally inept, a profound cluster**** that is a wonder to behold and I don't know 1/10 about it that Rufus does. He doesn't seem too impressed either. That doesn't change the fact that there are just too many people in these islands.

The people on this little island of Bohol are wonderful, and this area is my life now.

Regarding the servant culture, we have no problem hiring Marivic to do the chores here and none doing the chores ourselves in the US. The only way it could be better is if it were opposite. We do here and she does there. We work alot there and having someone help out would be great. Here we just relax and would have plenty of time to clean up.

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Lancer
The people on this little island of Bohol are wonderful, and this area and Apolyton are my life now.

Fixed.

[Wezil]

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[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by Lancer
The govt of the Phils is totally inept, a profound cluster**** that is a wonder to behold and I don't know 1/10 about it that Rufus does. He doesn't seem too impressed either. That doesn't change the fact that there are just too many people in these islands.

Yeah, don't get me started. The factoid I like to cite -- and probably have here before -- is that in the early 60's Time ran an article that debated whether japan or teh Phillipines would prove to be the dominant Asian economic power in the 2nd half of the 20th century. That's what the Phils once was. Now it's basically Indonesia with Catholics, and they've no one to blame but themselves. There's been no war (except Vietnam, which should have turned them a tidy profit), no natural disasters -- just an unspeakably corrupt and incompetent political class which everyone bemoans but nobody does anything about.

The people on this little island of Bohol are wonderful, and this area is my life now.

Regarding the servant culture, we have no problem hiring Marivic to do the chores here and none doing the chores ourselves in the US. The only way it could be better is if it were opposite. We do here and she does there. We work alot there and having someone help out would be great. Here we just relax and would have plenty of time to clean up.

There's also the fact that having servants, which Americans tend to think of as a sign of decadence, is actually a form of altruism in the 3rd world. To use my own example in Manila: doing all my housework myself and not hiring a maid would have saved me less than one day's wages a month, but denied Beth a month's salary; under those circumstances, hiring Beth is not a form of decadence but a form of economic justice.

My only objection -- and this didn't apply to us, and I'm sure it doesn't apply to you -- is when I saw people (locals and expats) treating their servants like chattel. I remember dropping my daughter off at school one day, and seeing a strapping 15-year-old boy bound out of the car ahead of us -- followed by his tiny Filipina maid, who was carrying his heavy backback for him. That's the kind of stuff that sickened me (and my daughter, who began cussing a blue streak when she saw what was going on. I guess Mrs. Firefly and I did something right).

[Zkribbler]

Sports forum?

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Zkribbler
Sports forum?

Why can't Jordan date Filipinos?

[Lancer]

Marcos was the worst, and is Imelda still a senator? The peso was 2 to a dollar just after WWII, now it's 41. Of course, we're giving them a run for their money as far as corruption goes these days so it's not 56 anymore.

Yup Rufus, Vik comes and dusts every other week even when we're not here.

Keeps the spiders on their toes.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Wezil
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Beat you to it