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**Whoha** · January 16, 2008, 18:41

"One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn't possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it."

Now that statement is made of the awesome.

**Blake** · January 16, 2008, 18:43

"One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn't possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it."

That's the kind of comment you just hope and pray is actually cleverly satirical and not serious

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**yaroslav** · January 16, 2008, 18:47

Originally posted by Whoha
"One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn't possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it."

Now that statement is made of the awesome.

Unfortunately, I know that some people have organize meetings in some Spanish universities, to introduce the same argument

Basically, they say that the second law says that the entropy will increase, and that life means a reduction in entropy... so God should have enter into action. They forget to tell that the second law applies to close system, and fail to recognize that the Earth, getting a lot of energy from the sun is far, far away from being a close system. I tried to discuss with one of these people, but to no avail

**Zoid** · January 16, 2008, 18:47

Blake, I wouldn't bet on it...

**LordShiva** · January 16, 2008, 18:47

Gravity: Doesn't exist. If items of mass had any impact of others, then mountains should have people orbiting them. Or the space shuttle in space should have the astronauts orbiting it. Of course, that's just the tip of the gravity myth. Think about it. Scientists want us to believe that the sun has a gravitation pull strong enough to keep a planet like neptune or pluto in orbit, but then it's not strong enough to keep the moon in orbit? Why is that? What I believe is going on here is this: These objects in space have yet to receive mans touch, and thus have no sin to weigh them down. This isn't the case for earth, where we see the impact of transfered sin to material objects. The more sin, the heavier something is.

I am a bit troubled. I believe my son has a girlfriend, because she left a dirty magazine with men in it under his bed. My son is only 16 and I really don't think he's ready to date yet. What's worse is that he's sneaking some girl to his room behind my back. I need help, God! I want my son to stop being so secretive!

"Sorry but scientists have just shown that mice DNA is more similar to humans than human DNA. So would evolutionists then declare that humans came from mice? Probably. That's because most people can't think for themselves and are confused about reality. That's why they believe anything scientists say."

**Elok** · January 16, 2008, 18:49

While I'm not committing to their falsehood, many of these sound a little too stupid, esp. the one about the big bang being an explosion and explosions killing things. A very similar remark was made on a Christian teens bulletin board somebody here posted a link to about a year or so back. Are we sure these aren't made up, and are made by adults as opposed to thirteen-year-olds on message boards?

EDIT: Oh. So it is just stupid crap on message boards. I guess it still has comedy value, and I can believe fundies said most of this stuff, but I was thinking these were quotes from prominent creationism advocates or something. With random online twits saying it, it's not half as funny.

**Dauphin** · January 16, 2008, 18:51

I have a problem with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics on statistical grounds.

**Kuciwalker** · January 16, 2008, 18:51

Originally posted by Whoha
"One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn't possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it."

Now that statement is made of the awesome.

QFTQFTQFTQFTQFTQFT

**Zoid** · January 16, 2008, 18:55

* Atheists have the greatest "cover" of all, they insist they believe in no god yet most polls done and the latest research indicates that they are actually a different sect of Muslims.

* Apes are just creatures twisted by Satan to mock Jesus by giving EVILolition credibility. Further more they are naturally lust crazed for human women. Since they are not natural creatures they should be exterminated forthwith as the tools of evil they are.

* To say the Bible was written by men and may contain inaccuracies completely contradicts the word of the Bible.

* Make sure your answer uses Scripture, not logic.

* [One Christian speaking to another] You are banned. You are not a Christian for Christians don't accuse brothers and sisters in Christ of being non-Christian.

* If we did evolve from monkeys then how come babies arent born monkeys

But then there's also this tragic story:

Just recently my son Bobby came out to me. I had been worried for awhile. His teachers said most of his grades were slipping and he seemed depressed and withdrawn.

Bobby said he'd been hiding it for awhile because he was afraid I would reject him. I sat him down and told him that I loved him and that God loved him, but that his salvation was in danger if he did not resist his unnatural tempations. I told him how being gay would mean he would live a shorter life, and that if he couldnt change his orientation he could be celibate like most the ex-gays are. He started crying saying something along the lines of "I knew you wouldnt understand! You're just like everyone else!" before running to his room and slamming the door.

What did I do wrong? I dont want to lose my son, but I fear I already have. I talked it over with his therapist, who had the ludicrous idea that homosexuality was unchangable and that trying to repress could lead to lots of psychological damage (I've dropped him and will try to be finding another therapist with more moral beliefs). I wouldnt be surprised if he's the one who's feeding my son all the homosexual propaganda about how its 'ok' to be gay. That, or how homosexuality has engulfed the media, making it seem 'cool' and 'hip' and how they were just another oppressed minority. You didnt have to worry about seeing two men making out on tv at my age! I dont want to sound like a fanatic, but Im worried what other effects will come out of this increasingly secular, immoral society obsessed with filth.

Am I too late? Or is it possible to save my son

The boy later took his own life

**Blake** · January 16, 2008, 18:55

I am a bit troubled. I believe my son has a girlfriend, because she left a dirty magazine with men in it under his bed. My son is only 16 and I really don't think he's ready to date yet. What's worse is that he's sneaking some girl to his room behind my back. I need help, God! I want my son to stop being so secretive!

, that can't be real!

**DaShi** · January 16, 2008, 19:02

Originally posted by LordShiva

Gravity: Doesn't exist. If items of mass had any impact of others, then mountains should have people orbiting them. Or the space shuttle in space should have the astronauts orbiting it. Of course, that's just the tip of the gravity myth. Think about it. Scientists want us to believe that the sun has a gravitation pull strong enough to keep a planet like neptune or pluto in orbit, but then it's not strong enough to keep the moon in orbit? Why is that? What I believe is going on here is this: These objects in space have yet to receive mans touch, and thus have no sin to weigh them down. This isn't the case for earth, where we see the impact of transfered sin to material objects. The more sin, the heavier something is.

Lois: He just went over the edge!

Peter: Of course! Christians don't believe in gravity.

**Proteus_MST** · January 16, 2008, 19:38

The most moronic statement IMHO is this:

There are a lot of things I have concluded to be wrong, without studying them in-depth. Evolution is one of them. The fact that I don't know that much about it does not bother me in the least.

I think it is no surprise (to everyone non fundamentalist) then, that you fell for creationism, my dear

**MrFun** · January 16, 2008, 20:28

Indeed; how do you decide on something of which you do not study or read about?

**Rufus T. Firefly** · January 16, 2008, 20:34

Originally posted by DaShi

Peter: Of course! Christians don't believe in gravity.

It's called "Intelligent Falling."

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