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**Aeson** · January 10, 2008, 00:18

**MrFun** · January 10, 2008, 01:03

You need to go back to elementary school, DM.

**MikeH** · January 10, 2008, 05:24

Originally posted by Japher
MrFun, who is not funny or fun, is ironic

MrFun calling Asher too gay, is sarcasm

Asher getting mad at MrFun for calling him too gay is trite

Mr. Bush calling someone a threat to world peace is a miracle, as I didn't think monkeys could talk.

**Agathon** · January 10, 2008, 05:34

Is anyone actually watching Bush's speech in Ramallah? I'm shocked.

**dannubis** · January 10, 2008, 05:37

Originally posted by Patroklos

Thats not irony. Thats somehthing happening in the opposite way than expected, typically causing wry amuesment.

And you fail on both acounts because "W" is only the biggest threat to world peace if you a dillusional.

hmm, I think the being delusional applies to you as well if you fail to put yourself in the perspecitve of the average Iraqi whose country was invaded because of a bunch of lies and personal frustrations of a few.

the real irony of your comment is that the further you move to the political right all empathic abilities for anything that does not happen to your "inner circle" seem to go out the window although moral authority is increasingly used as a basis for justification.

**Ari Rahikkala** · January 10, 2008, 05:45

If irony is something that was opposite to what was expected, then this certainly isn't ironic. Who *didn't* expect Bush to fingerpoint at Iran and call it a threat to America/world peace/civilization/God/some other synonym?

**Dauphin** · January 10, 2008, 09:01

Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala
If irony is something that was opposite to what was expected, then this certainly isn't ironic. Who *didn't* expect Bush to fingerpoint at Iran and call it a threat to America/world peace/civilization/God/some other synonym?

Incorrect definition.

Irony often requires a perverse twist rather than just an opposite of what is expected or something unusual.

A fire station burning down is irony. A police station being burgled is irony. A town planner being stuck in traffic is irony.

In the context of the joke, Bush is not being ironic, rather he is being hypocritical. The situation can be seen as ironic in the context of the warmonger is calling for peace and the peaceful guy is calling for war. You have to accept certain political viewpoints to make it work.

**Dauphin** · January 10, 2008, 09:06

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

I didn't find the joke funny because it was trite and it wasn't even ironic.

You don't understand irony then.

**Sirotnikov** · January 10, 2008, 10:10

Dauphin seems to be right

**LordShiva** · January 10, 2008, 11:34

As usual

**Qilue** · January 10, 2008, 12:10

I just wish one of the current crop of US presidential hopefulls had the potential of being as entertaining as George Dubyah Bush.

**Heraclitus** · January 10, 2008, 12:50

Ron Paul?

**Qilue** · January 10, 2008, 12:56

Originally posted by Heraclitus
Ron Paul?

I initially thought "Who the hell is he?", but then I googled the name.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/827544/ron_paul_girl/

**Agathon** · January 10, 2008, 13:02

Did no-one notice that W called for the end of the Occupation today and the establishment of a Palestinian State, and did so in more forceful terms than any US President has ever done so before?

You'd think that would be news worth discussing. I had to pinch myself when I was watching him.

**MikeH** · January 10, 2008, 13:11

I've just been reading. Fair play to him, I'm stunned.

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