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  • OMG, people can move where they want

    I bet there will be disastrous consequences, similar like those after the EU enlargement.

    Europe's border-free zone expands

    Forty-eight hours of celebrations are taking place to mark nine new states joining a European border-free zone.

    The Schengen agreement, which allows passport-free travel across the area, now embraces 24 nations.

    Some 2,000 people celebrated in the town of Frankfurt on Oder at Germany's border with Poland, amid fireworks and the EU anthem, Beethoven's Ode to Joy.

    The Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Poland, Slovakia, and Slovenia joined the zone.

    Speaking in Zittau, close to where Germany, Poland and the Czech Republic meet, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said it was a "truly historic moment".

    Mrs Merkel was joined by Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk, his Czech counterpart Mirek Topolanek and European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso.

    Crime wave fears

    On Thursday a checkpoint between Austria and Slovakia was dismantled in one of several events marking the enlargement from the Baltic Sea to the Adriatic.


    Slovak Prime Minister, Robert Fico (left) and Chancellor Gusenbauer of Austria
    From midnight tonight you can travel 4,000km from Tallinn in Estonia to Lisbon in Portugal without any border controls
    Slovak PM Robert Fico

    New border security fears
    In pictures: Border-free EU
    Schengen: Your views

    Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico and Austrian Chancellor Alfred Gusenbauer sawed through a barrier at the Berg border crossing.

    Mr Fico said: "From midnight tonight you can travel 4,000km (2,485 miles) from Tallinn in Estonia to Lisbon in Portugal without any border controls."

    Mr Gusenbauer welcomed the extension of the Schengen zone, rejecting fears that it might create a crime wave in Austria.

    The European Commission says that one billion euros (£720m) has been spent on beefing up security on the new EU frontiers, including the establishing of missions along the Polish and Slovak borders.

    Initially the lifting of internal controls involves just land and sea borders, but that will be extended to airports at the end of March 2008.

    Vast database

    Although the enlargement allows passport-free transit throughout the area, travellers can be asked to carry documents by any of the countries concerned.

    For non-EU nationals, a Schengen visa allows travel across all the participating countries.

    Thirteen existing EU states have already been part of the Schengen accord as well as two non-EU countries, Norway and Iceland.

    The UK and Ireland are not involved in the zone - which embraces 400m people - but they have signed up to agreements on security.

    A significant element of the Schengen agreement is the Schengen Information Service (SIS) which features an enormous database in the French city of Strasbourg.

    The SIS database enables police in any Schengen state to find out whether a suspect has been involved in any kind of crime across the EU.
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    Well, borders are overrated anyway I guess
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    anarchy
    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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    • #3
      coastal borders

      doesnt seem to stop many getting in though
      Safer worlds through superior firepower

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      • #4
        Ha ha ha You are all doomed.
        "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
        I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
        Middle East!

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        • #5
          Freedom of movement for Heresson
          THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
          AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
          AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
          DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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          • #6
            LordShiva for Heresson
            "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
            I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
            Middle East!

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            • #7
              Heresson for Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah

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              • #8
                Mas'ud would probably be better
                "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                Middle East!

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                • #9
                  THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                  AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                  AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                  DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                  • #10
                    Y'all come to Texas. You can help me keep those people from Oklahoma out. People kicking up a fuss about illegal Mexicans, but I've yet to see a poll about Oklahomans. It's about time, too.
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • #11
                      Oklahomo

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                      • #12
                        Oklahoma should be depopulated and given back to Indians. LordShiva included.
                        "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                        I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                        Middle East!

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                        • #13
                          Is there the same security debate in Germany as we have it in Austria? It is so sickening that our right wing parties in coalition with our most successful boulevard crappaper are successfully fueling diffuse fears of people who don't understand what is actually happening. It's getting almost hysterical, it is claimed that 75% of all Austrians fear that the Schengen expansion will lead to an increase in crime. I hate my xenophobic co-patriots.
                          "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                          "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Wernazuma III
                            Is there the same security debate in Germany as we have it in Austria?
                            Seems a lot calmer here in this regard. We had a similar debate pre-EU enlargement, mainly with the focus on "OMG, they will take our jobs" (which didn't happen on any larger scale), but it has died down, and the reaction to the entry of more countries into the Schengen praxis was mainly positive.

                            Security concerns were frequently mentioned, but mostly in a way that people were assured that the move would not be a threat to security. As a cynic one could ask if that is just typical gov politics trying to sell its actions as successful or at least not harmful, but it's not the impression I get currently.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Heresson
                              Ha ha ha You are all doomed.
                              Your secret frog army isn't mentioned in the Schengen thing, so they have to stay at home
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