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  • #16
    This refusal was a first. The EPA has never refused such a waiver request before. By Federal law California is the only state allowed to set separate automotive tail pipe emissions and other states have the option of either adopting the California standard or the looser Federal standard. Since 1963 the EPA has never blocked any such regulation by the state of California and legally speaking California has every right to regulate any emission which comes out of an automotive tailpipe. California's Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has called the Bush administration's obstructionism "outrageous" and has directed the state's Attorney General to begin working on a legal case to challenge the EPA's ruling.
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    • #17
      ...and a Chrysler executive delivered a letter to the EPA saying why the state should not be allowed to regulate greenhouse gases...
      Why isn´t that really surprising
      Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
      Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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      • #18
        Are 48" pizzas now legal in California? Are the 48" pizza greenhouse gas laws still in effect out there? Inquiring minds.....
        "Pain IS Scary!!!"
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        • #19
          I said ages ago when Bush was first elected that he was the anti-christ...
          Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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          • #20
            No. Mobius, no.
            Satan is intelligent enough to invent his own ways to torture mankind.
            He doesn´t need any corporate executives to tell him how to do it
            Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
            Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Saygame
              Are 48" pizzas now legal in California? Are the 48" pizza greenhouse gas laws still in effect out there? Inquiring minds.....
              48" pizzas have now been made illegal. So we're destroying them as fast as we can eat them.

              But Johnson's staff gave him the opposite advice, warning him that should he block California, the state would probably sue him in the courts and would probably win. The state's governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, immediately announced that he would challenge the EPA's ruling in the courts, describing it as "legally indefensible".
              My understanding is that 16 other states will be joining in California's suit.

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              • #22
                They are the 16 states which have already passed laws ordering the California green house gas limits be adopted. Those 17 states make up something like 40% of the US automotive market which is so large that automakers would effectively have to design all cars to meet California's emission requirements. Thus Bush's obstructionism.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Proteus_MST
                  No. Mobius, no.
                  Satan is intelligent enough to invent his own ways to torture mankind.
                  He doesn´t need any corporate executives to tell him how to do it
                  Just cos satan is intelligent doesn't mean his son doesn't have to be a moron...
                  Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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