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  • #31
    Originally posted by Arrian
    Oh, I have an idea. But I don't want to get nasty, so I'll leave it be.

    -Arrian
    "OMG, the atheists are attacking us for being a religion, what irony, thats so funny?"

    "wheres the humor?"

    "OMG, they dont see the humor, LOL"

    Look, obviously religionists consider that they HAVE looked at appropriate evidence. Anti-religionists think they havent.

    Its quite natural for anti-religionists to disagree with religionists. Its not very reasonable to expect them to see the humor in something based on the assumption that their evidence is not appropriate.
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    • #32
      Let's all point and laugh at LOTM.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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      • #33
        I said I was going to leave it be, and oddly enough I actually meant it. I've had my laugh, and have no desire to get into a debate with you over this.

        -Arrian
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        • #34
          Originally posted by lord of the mark
          Look, obviously religionists consider that they HAVE looked at appropriate evidence.
          I would tend to disagree, based on the idea that even religionists say they rely on faith and not evidence when it comes to belief in supernatural entities.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Lorizael


            I would tend to disagree, based on the idea that even religionists say they rely on faith and not evidence when it comes to belief in supernatural entities.
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            The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
            The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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            • #36
              Well... he does have a point though. Besides, you can't scientifically research religion, but you can do that with climate so... the Pope is right!
              In da butt.
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              • #37
                This is certainly cute, but I don't think the irony is as strong as some claim here. The religionists have a valid defense, IMO (the difference between religion and science). The only way to ignore that defense is to assume a priori that the religionists are wrong - which, though true, means you can't claim the irony is universal and then laugh at the religionists for pretending not to see it.

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                • #38
                  I think it's hilarious and I laugh at you for dismissing it as anything but.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Pekka
                    Well... he does have a point though. Besides, you can't scientifically research religion, but you can do that with climate so... the Pope is right!
                    Not entirely true,
                    although you cannot disprove god (or the adterworld) by scientific means, you can at least disprove some of the claims religious fundamentalists (who believe in the literal truth of the bible [or other holy books]) make.

                    For example you can disprove the age of the world to be 6k years as well as you can disprove other stories within the bible, like the great flood and many other things by scientific means.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Proteus_MST
                      ...like the great flood and many other things by scientific means.
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                      • #41
                        Can't disprove the existance of Nyarlathotep either, Proteus_MST.

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                        • #42
                          It'd be funny without resorting to atheist fapping, seeing as the RCC pushes abstinence-only sex ed and tries to pretend condoms have a 40% failure rate or whatever it is they claim. But fap away.
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                          • #43
                            Oh no, Elok's here to pour barbed scorn over us - or am I mixing my metaphors here?

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                            • #44
                              [QUOTE] Originally posted by Proteus_MST


                              Not entirely true,
                              although you cannot disprove god (or the adterworld) by scientific means, you can at least disprove some of the claims religious fundamentalists (who believe in the literal truth of the bible [or other holy books]) make.


                              But the RC isnt fundamentalist.
                              "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Proteus_MST

                                For example you can disprove the age of the world to be 6k years as well as you can disprove other stories within the bible, like the great flood and many other things by scientific means.
                                True, but the you're examples are ill chosen for the RCC since these are claims by other Christian groups.
                                Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                                The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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