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  • Germany attempts to destroy reason & common sense.

    Now our German friends have been know to do stupid things from time to time, giving Austria-Hungary a blank check in 1914 or deciding to vacation in Poland in 1939 come to mind, but this has to top the list. I mean the 1914 & 1939 calls didn't pan out in the end but they at least seemed to have a chance of success at the time, however, this new law is just completely retarded from the get go. Let's make it illegal for anyone under 18 to kiss anyone else? Charge high school seniors with planning sexual assaults for making out at the movie theater no matter how willing & consenting she was?

    Can't the fundamentalist feminist of the SPD and the sex-hating Catholics in the CDU just go get laid and stop coming up with these retarded laws?

    Children caught kissing face jail
    ALLAN HALL IN BERLIN

    GERMANY is poised to bring in a draconian law tomorrow that will effectively outlaw kissing and cuddling between children under 17 in public places.

    While experts acknowledge that the bill has good intentions, they fear it will deprive teens of a sexual rite of passage, through flirting and experimentation.

    Broadly speaking, the law is aimed at the 14-17 age group, but some subclauses have far-reaching consequences. Parents who put a picture of their naked youngster in a bath or a paddling pool on the internet, for example, will leave themselves open to charges of disseminating child pornography.

    But it is the attempt to regulate - in essence - the raging hormones of teenagers that strike many as bizarre and unworkable. Under the law, to go before the Bundestag tomorrow, a teenage boy up to the age of 17 who is caught "fondling or stroking the chest" of someone younger will be liable to prosecution - regardless of consent.

    If he does it in a cinema and the girl complains, he will be deemed to have been guilty of planning the "assault" by paying for the cinema ticket to commit the act - crime aforethought.

    Critics say Germany has gone more than two steps beyond European Union and United Nations' guidelines in introducing the law, claiming that it is copied from the United States. A 15-year-old girl in Pittsburgh faces a long jail term on a charge of distributing child pornography after sending nude pictures of herself over the internet to a friend.

    "This is not something Germany should be copying," said Jürgen Grünewald, a child welfare consultant. "It seems pompous, heavy-handed and totally unworkable."

    Lawyers see a minefield ahead: false claims from girls who were rebuffed by the school hunk at a disco or boys spurned by the class vamp. But Brigitte Zypries, the justice minister, said the younger generation needed to be protected as much from itself as from the bogeymen that parents insist lurk at every teenage party.

    At present, the law stipulates that sexual abuse among minors occurs when the perpetrator is 18 and the victim is at least two years younger. This age disparity is being done away with under the new legislation. Wolfgang Neskovic, of the Left Party, said: "In a ridiculous way, we are trying to regulate the hormones and lifestyle of teenagers and criminalise that which has gone on since time immemorial."

    Under the new law a 15-year-old who posts a picture of herself in a bikini on the internet would be guilty of disseminating a pornographic photograph. She could be punished by law - as would anyone who downloaded it, for whatever purpose.

    Professional artists and writers would face up to three months in jail if they make "realistic descriptions of sex among young people" in magazines, films, books, newspapers or on the internet.

    Andreas Hill, a Hamburg sex therapist, warned that the bill - which appears likely to be passed by the coalition right-left government in Germany - might release a "wave of useless procedures for an already overstretched police force to deal with, while the really relevant crimes in society go unsolved".
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    Last edited by Dinner; December 13, 2007, 06:29.
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  • #2
    It's a stupid law, but what do you expect if you have SPD and CDU retards at the helm?

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    • #3
      I'm just wondering exactly how they plan to stop all the sweaty under age hankey pankey in bedrooms and cars across the father land. Maybe they could start issuing chastity belts again. Opps, the law also outlaws kissing and fondling so I guess it would have to be a giant human sized steel bubble to block all contact with other people.
      Last edited by Dinner; December 13, 2007, 06:41.
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      • #4
        Der Spiegel already wrote, that the real child molesters probably rejoice, because the judicial system's resources will be occupied by persecuting nonsense, leaving them plenty of room for the really dirty things.

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        • #5
          Didn't read the article completely, but this sucks indeed, and yesterday it was reported that the bill was taken back for "rework" already after facing lots of criticism: http://www.tagesschau.de/inland/sexualstrafrecht2.html (in Kraut)
          Blah

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          • #6
            2 years old, but still true (it's rather become worse):

            Loss of trust

            The populace in most European states realises that decision-making is being exercised with little democracy and has largely lost its trust in the democratic nature of the institutions. In Germany, research by TNS Emnid, commissioned by the Reader’s Digest magazine, showed that citizens’ trust in political parties decreased from 41% to 17% in the ten years from 1995 to 2005. Trust in the parliament decreased during the same period from 58% to 34%, and trust in the government from 53% to 26%. “Under the surface, there’s a big storm brewing”, commented the political scientist Karl-Rudolf Korte. “This is much more than the traditional lack of interest in politics and political parties. People now despise their official representatives.” (Reader’s Digest Online, 10 August 2005). According to a Gallup poll, 76% of Germans consider their politicians dishonest. (Die Zeit, 4 August 2005)
            Source (there are many more, most in German)

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            • #7
              Why not introduce a mandatory Burkha law when they're at it?
              So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
              Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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              • #8
                I used to like and respect you Oerdin, but counting this bill in a row with the world wars is just tontísimo.

                The bill failed before it as introduced to the parliament atfer beingdestroyed in the press. As Sir Ralph indicated, it has to be seen as a result of 2 big moderate parties in government. Time to get some small players in again. Hell, even a right wing government with the FDP in it wouldn't come up with this kind of crap.

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                • #9
                  Is this a true article Oerdin or did you make it up?
                  "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                  "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                  • #10
                    It's true, Wezil. It's true 48" stupidity.

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                    • #11
                      Lawyers see a gold mine ahead: false claims from girls who were rebuffed by the school hunk at a disco or boys spurned by the class vamp.
                      Fixed
                      What?

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                      • #12
                        Zypries is incompetent and completely overstrained by her office. She's already blessed us with the "whore protection law", which outlaws secret DNA fatherhood tests and thus, forces fathers with doubts to go the official way through the court - against their own wife! Nice way to destroy the fundament of the families. Remove her from her high horse and have her cleaning floors. I'm just afraid she won't be any good even at that.

                        EDIT: Did I mention, that she outlawed the development and possession of computer security software (so called "hacker tools") too?
                        Last edited by Harovan; December 13, 2007, 09:36.

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                        • #13
                          I'd send them to labour camps, to learn how to work not flirt
                          Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                          GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                          • #14
                            Tase them!
                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ecthy
                              I used to like and respect you Oerdin, but counting this bill in a row with the world wars is just tontísimo.
                              No, it is sarcasm. Germans have no sense of it.
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