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    WASHINGTON - Prime Minister Stephen Harper "blew off" complaints from President George W. Bush about Canada's opposition to natural gas tankers passing through Canadian waters to get to New England, a U.S. coast guard captain told a briefing this week.

    Capt. Charles Michel said the issue is a good example of why the United States needs to endorse the international treaty on the Law of the Sea. "Without being a party to the Law of the Sea Convention, we cannot avail ourselves of the dispute-resolution provisions," he said.

    "This is a slam dunk. We would win."

    "There's absolutely no question about it," said Michel, the coast guard's chief of the office of maritime and international law.

    "My understanding is President Bush has personally communicated with the prime minister, who blew off (Bush) and said no, because he's playing to his local political constituency."

    And the United States is not about to use force with Canada over the issue, he said.

    "Right now, U.S. citizens are likely going to end up paying more for their natural gas and probably have less of it because of our inability to become a party to the (treaty). I don't know how much closer to home that can hit."

    Harper and several other Canadian ministers have said it would be dangerous to allow liquefied natural gas tankers to travel through Head Harbour Passage leading into U.S. ports in northern Maine.

    It's part of Passamaquoddy Bay in southern New Brunswick that straddles the U.S. border, near Campobello Island where former U.S. president Franklin Delano Roosevelt had a retreat.

    The bay is also home to rich fishing grounds.

    The issue, which originally surfaced in the 1970s, is prominent again with new plans to build new LNG terminals in northern Maine.

    New Brunswick MP Greg Thompson calls the passage, with its high tides and rocky ledges, one of the most treacherous in Canada and says a gas spil would be devastating.

    Thompson, who is Veterans Affairs minister, said Bush raised the issue with Harper at the August summit in Montebello, Que.

    And while he wasn't there for the conversation, he said Harper gave a "polite" synopsis of Canada's position and its intent to use "every legal and diplomatic means" to ensure the tankers don't pass through the passage.

    "We regard them as internal Canadian waters," he said from Ottawa.

    Ambassador Michael Wilson wrote to the head of the U.S. Federal Energy Regulatory Commission in February to say risks to the sensitive area from U.S. tankers are too great for Canada to accept.

    U.S. officials have been lobbying the Senate to quickly endorse the Law of the Sea treaty for reasons including national security and access to untapped Arctic energy resources.

    The upper house is expected to vote on the convention and it must pass with the support of two-third of senators.

    The United States helped devise the treaty, which came into effect in 1994 and has been ratified by 155 countries including Canada.

    But the United States never signed because of concerns it would be giving up sovereignty or losing rights.

    Not joining is hurting the country in several ways, said U.S. navy Capt. Patrick Neher.

    "It denies us the opportunity to submit a claim for our own extended continental shelf off Alaska and elsewhere" covering vast energy resources, he said.

    Passing the treaty would also give the United States tools to claim an area of the Beaufort Sea that Canada considers its own.

    Canada insists the international border continues through the ocean in a straight line from the land along the border between Alaska and the Yukon.

    The United States argues the border angles 30 degrees to the east, an area with high energy potential.

    Global warming is reducing ice cover in the Arctic, creating the prospect that a shipping route could open up within a decade, so there's more impetus for northern countries to stake their claims.




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  • #2
    Is all news from Canada this boring?

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    • #3
      We've pretty much had it with you guys. One more excuse and we''ll take you out.
      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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      • #4
        Moose dragoons.
        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        • #5
          If Canada and the US go to war, where to all the draft dodgers wimp out to?
          Long time member @ Apolyton
          Civilization player since the dawn of time

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          • #6
            Quebec.
            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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            • #7
              We must assume that they will have surrendered to Mexico.
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              • #8
                You guys could just sign the damn treaty.

                edit - a triple x-post. Impressive.
                "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SlowwHand
                  Moose dragoons.
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                  The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand.

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                  • #10
                    New Zealand makes their move in the ensuing chaos.
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • #11
                      Sheep
                      You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                      • #12
                        qft

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                        • #13
                          Bastard
                          You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SlowwHand
                            New Zealand makes their move in the ensuing chaos.
                            Cute

                            Serioulsy though if the US wants the benefit of international treaties they have to take the obligations too-- You cannot have it one way

                            Personally I cannot see why an LNG tanker has to go through a narrow passage-- It can't be that big a detour to go around
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                            • #15
                              And the United States is not about to use force with Canada over the issue, he said.
                              Pfft. Why not?
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