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  • #61
    Originally posted by Kidicious

    Don't call it "absolute" obedience and the claim works just fine. Americans are not well psychologically, and in a hierarchial society this translates into an authoritarian society.
    I just love it when you talk Frankfurt School, makes me feel young again.
    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Arrian
      As for American Capitalism being "authoritarian" - I'm not really sure that's the word you want. Critique it if you will - and there are valid critiques - but "characterized by or favoring absolute obedience to authority, as against individual freedom" doesn't fit. Try another slipper.

      -Arrian
      You should check some of the tazer threads - lots of demand of "absolute obedience to authority" in there
      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

      Steven Weinberg

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
        Don't call it "absolute" obedience and the claim works just fine.


        Yes... fine for every single system of governance on the Earth. Which is why the defintion includes the word "absolute" .
        Absolute is only a mathematical concept.
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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        • #64
          Originally posted by lord of the mark


          I just love it when you talk Frankfurt School, makes me feel young again.
          That's double plus good.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Oerdin


            Excellent summary. Though I don't think I would include the complete abolition of private property as that is one of the main defining features of communism and Social Democrats are presumably not communists since they came up with a spiffy new name.
            Social Democracy wasn't the new name. Marxism = social democracy from 187x to 1916. Remember that the party that Lenin built was the All-Russian Social Democratic Labor Party, though he later split from it. Social democracy, however, betrayed its principles, and most of the Marxists left and founded Communist Parties.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • #66
              Robin Hood?
              You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Kidicious


                That's double plus good.
                Straight from Minitruth-- somehow I get feeling that almost anything you like that much I would think is double plus ungood
                You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Flubber
                  somehow I get feeling that almost anything you like that much I would think is double plus ungood
                  That speaks volumes.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                  - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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