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  • #31
    The supply is essentially unlimited since both breeder and fast breeder reactors produce both energy and plutonium. Not to mention we "spent" nuclear fuel still has 90% of its energy left so if we started recycling it, the way the French already do & what the Japanese plan on doing in 10 years, then we once again have several thousand years worth of fuel. The problem is it is currently cheaper to buy new fuel then to bother recycling but that is simply a matter of proper government regulation.

    Recycling & use of breeder reactors is good on another level too because it means virtually no long term waste problem. There simply isn't a problem.

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    • #32
      Nice, I didn't know that...
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      • #33
        Another source for uranium :



        Price is a bit high - $1000 pr kilo (currently less than 100 for conventional), but there seem to be 4.5 billion tons wich is replenished from rivers.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Oerdin
          Doubt it. More like 12-15.

          Still, it makes the point that the automotive industry never bothers to make progress on fuel economy or emissions unless the government forces them. It's about time for America to get a pro-active government in place so we can start dealing with the back log of problems Bush & Co have allowed to pile up.
          Not to defend Bush & Co. but the backlog was there before they ever got into office.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Dauphin


            Hydrogen is not a source of energy, it is a method of storing energy. He is asking where will the ultimate (renewable) source come from?
            Maybe with bacteria plus a "small jolt of electricity" assuming this pans out and can be successful on a large scale.
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            • #36


              As predicted Republicans are acting against America's best interests and the best interests of the world.
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              • #37
                IMO, as far as alternate energy goes, the solution in the short-term (i.e. next couple decades) is nuclear, and in the long-term is deep (i.e. several kilometers) geothermal.
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                • #38
                  Actually, the most efficient way to increase fuel efficiency is to tax gas just a bit. Currently, incl tax, we pay $2 pr liter over here.
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                  • #39
                    Personally, I think we should expand our rail service tremendously, ease auto and air travel problems. Hell, in Europe and Japan they have trains that go 250+ mph!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tuberski
                      Personally, I think we should expand our rail service tremendously, ease auto and air travel problems. Hell, in Europe and Japan they have trains that go 250+ mph!
                      Amtrack should show signs of profitability before we talk about expansion.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by DinoDoc
                        Amtrack should show signs of profitability before we talk about expansion.
                        Maybe they need to improve performance to be able to show signs of profitability.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          Amtrack should show signs of profitability before we talk about expansion.
                          You cannot starve a company to success. The reality is mass transit becomes viable only when it is fast, safe, affordable, and connects enough locations which consumers want to go to.

                          The same is true with cars. Without the investment in interstates and freeways they become much less useful. Build the network and people will use it; don't and they won't. It's that simple.

                          Originally posted by BlackCat


                          Maybe they need to improve performance to be able to show signs of profitability.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            Amtrack should show signs of profitability before we talk about expansion.
                            Susidize as much as we do the highways and airlines and it will be profitable.

                            Outdated tracks that don't go where people want to go are useless.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Oerdin


                              Ethanol is a great idea but not if we're using corn to produce it. If we do use corn then it is stupid because we use more oil to produce the corn then we save by making ethanol. Republicans want to buy votes in fly over country so they raise this red herring and keep the tariff on sugar unreasonably high.

                              If we really wanted to reduce oil consumption we'd stop subsidizing useless corn production and start importing sugar cain from Latin America and Africa then use that sugar to make ethanol. THAT is how you make ethanol which actually produces more energy then it uses.
                              Where's the subsidy to US farmers in that? You really haven't thought about this have you?
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Oerdin
                                OMG! Blackcat said something intelligent, meaningful, and on topic!
                                Well, you occationally do the same when bushy isn't involved
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