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  • #1

    Americans don't support anti-war films

    But it's interesting to see a far left Hollywood still serve up those movies. As if it were some public service that they were doing.

    Lions for Lambs... bombed
    Rendition... bombed
    In the Valley of Elah... bombed
    Redacted... to bomb?

    Despite a who's who of top notch talent participating in the films.

    Moviegoers Flee Tom's 'Lions For Lambs'; Flock To Films With Jerry, Denzel, Russell; Vince's 'Fred Claus' Only Manages Third
    http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/moviegoers-flee-toms-lions-for-lambs-flock-to-films-with-jerry-denzel-russell/
    SUNDAY AM: I heard Tom Cruise did Lions For Lambs for “virtually nothing” to help kick-start his revival of United Artists. Without that, the R-rated movie starring Cruise, Meryl Streep and Robert Redford, who also directed, never would have gotten off the ground. Maybe that would have been kinder. Because even with a very moderate budget of $35 […]


    Some of these films even are in the majority opinion on these issues.

    It used to be that Hollywood participated in the government's propaganda. But that hasn't been the case for the last 50 years.

    My personal opinion is that Americans don't go into self flagellation. If Hollywood wants to put the hate on America, then middle America (and not so middle America) checks out.
    Last edited by DanS; November 12, 2007, 00:36.
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  • #2
    IMO,

    Many Americans (self included) have an incredible capacity to ignore the fact that their nation is involved in a war. They go to the movies to be entertained and don't find entertainment in a reminder that the human, financial and material resources of their nation are being needlessly wasted.
    The undeserving maintain power by promoting hysteria.

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    • #3
      Lions for Lambs received a lot of F's, with the occasional A++ from some beatniks. I heard it's 88 minutes of a sophomore debate and all for $9. What a deal!

      Escapism must be lost on Hollywood.

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      • #4
        Re: Americans don't support anti-war films

        Originally posted by DanS
        But it's interesting to see a far left Hollywood ...
        McCarthy used to call everyone he didn't agree with a Communist.
        Bill O'Reilly calls these people "far left."
        It seems to have caught on.

        The last truly far-left movie Hollywood made was Grapes of Wrath.

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        • #5
          Hey, if the shoe fits...
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          • #6
            Quacks like a duck...

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            • #7
              Translation: Americans don't like depressing films.

              Any more startling revelations, guys? Maybe something about the religious practices of the Pope, or the defecatory habits of bears?
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              • #8
                A mindless nation requires mindless entertainment.

                The trick Hollywood needs to learn, besides being able to make decent films, is to be more subtle. Maybe even employ subliminal messages.
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                • #9
                  Then they could be a hit in Australia.
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                  • #10
                    Pro war movies would bomb as well.

                    Currently most Americans would prefer to ignore the war in all its aspects.

                    Besides, a lot of hard dramas are not doing very well anyways, and there is a glut of them as well.
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                    • #11
                      You forget how popular Fahrenheit 9/11 was at the time.

                      However, I guess it depends on what you consider to be an anti-war film. I've always considered Saving Private Ryan to be one, in its own way. Not preachy, or anti-American, or political. Even with it focusing on a "good war". It really had some bleak scenes of just how futile and costly war can be. It was certainly also a "war film" but it never glorified war, it wasn't a Rambo or something. None of the characters really knew or cared why they were there, they just wanted to survive the day.

                      I dunno. That's what I got out of it at least.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by OzzyKP
                        You forget how popular Fahrenheit 9/11 was at the time.
                        Compare the take of an average motion picture and compare the take for F 9/11.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          Compare the take of an average motion picture and compare the take for F 9/11.
                          Compare per-screen grosses, and F 9/11 wins. Compare net instead of gross, and F 9/11 wins. Your point?

                          edit - actually, don't even go that far. F 9/11 grossed $24 million its opening weekend; over the same weekend this year (last weekend of June), the median gross for top-ten films (which are, by definition, way highger grossing than the "average Hollywood film" of your strawman challenge) was ~$9 million, and 9 of the 10 opening films grossed <$24 million.

                          Fun fact: on a per-screen gross basis, F 9/11 had a better opening weekend than Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, released that same summer.

                          So F 9/11 FTW!
                          Last edited by Rufus T. Firefly; November 12, 2007, 02:21.
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                          • #14
                            The trick Hollywood needs to learn, besides being able to make decent films, is to be more subtle. Maybe even employ subliminal messages.
                            Like all those 50s monster movies involving radioactive poisoning

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                            • #15
                              F9/11 came before the quagmire in Iraq

                              Alot of people regret buying the Bu**** and dont want it rubbed in their face, alot of people who bought the Bu**** aint gonna admit it, and the rest of us are hardly anxious to see a movie about the mess we wanted to avoid...

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