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  • #16
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LAPD zeroes in on Muslim communities

    Originally posted by Aeson


    LAPD's ability to multitask has nothing to do with what you've said. You said Muslims start most of the **** in LA. You tried to back up that assertion by saying gang violence wasn't suicide bombing. We can sum up your point as:

    "Muslims are the problem with everything and I refuse to observe any evidence to the contrary."
    I assume that you are pretty tired since you aren't able to figure out that I in no way said anything about that muslim terrorism was LAPD's major threat.

    I guess it's the same reason why you fantasy about me thinking that muslims are the main reason of violence in LA.

    "Muslims are the problem with everything and I refuse to observe any evidence to the contrary."
    Well, if thats' your belief, I pity you, but it isn't mine - I tend to go a bit further.
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Chemical Ollie


      Sweden never had concentration camps. Except for some communists during WW2. And we currently have a right wing government (which some would still call socialistic, or at least liberal).
      Do I really have to remind you of the atrociticies swedes did when they invaded skåne, halland and blekinge ? That is probably one of the eldest documented case of ethnic cleansing.

      You should read my former post again, with your sarcasm detector on, to understand my parallells between the American concentration camps in WW2 and today's Guantanamo.
      No offense, but I think that your sarcasm meter needs a bit of adjusting
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      • #18
        In LA? Are they using gang colored turbans these days or something?
        The Sikh wear turbans, Muslims are towel heads

        Just out of curiosity - how many suicide bombs are the LA gangs activating ? No need to give precise numbers - a weekly average is fine.
        Same as LA Muslims - 0

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        • #19
          Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LAPD zeroes in on Muslim communities

          Originally posted by DRoseDARs

          About as many as instances of LA Muslims committing acts of terrorism: A precise ZERO. Which brings us back to the fact that Muslim communities in LA are peaceful and focusing on them is diverting needed resources from dealing with gang violence in LA.
          But nowadays you get more federal money for terrorism, right?
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          • #20
            Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LAPD zeroes in on Muslim communities

            Originally posted by BlackCat
            I assume that you are pretty tired since you aren't able to figure out that I in no way said anything about that muslim terrorism was LAPD's major threat.

            I guess it's the same reason why you fantasy about me thinking that muslims are the main reason of violence in LA.
            You were justifying "unfairly targetting Muslims", because "Muslim belivers are those that mainly make **** happens." And doing so in response to an article about the LAPD. Then you made some inane remark about how LA gangs didn't suicide bomb to support your previous statement... which further cemented the fact that you were talking about LA specifically when claiming Muslims were mainly the problem the LAPD should be watching out for.

            When called on that, you further corroborated this with: "Well, I guess that most Londoners would have said the same [that muslims weren't a problem] some years ago. Unfortunatedly, they were wrong" and "No offense, but I think that LAPD are able to multitask."

            We all know what you're saying. Do you?

            Well, if thats' your belief, I pity you, but it isn't mine - I tend to go a bit further.
            It's my summation of your statements in this thread so far. You know, what I meant when I said, "We can sum up your point as:"

            In that statement "your" is refering to you. Not me. If I was refering to me I would have said "my".

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BlackCat

              Do I really have to remind you of the atrociticies swedes did when they invaded skåne, halland and blekinge ? That is probably one of the eldest documented case of ethnic cleansing.
              That was over 300 years ago, and not very unusual for it's time. And ethnic cleansing is very well documented, and praised, in the Bible. So nothing new there.

              And the etnic cleansing part was quite random and performed only to a minor extent. Some burned villages, some chopped heads, some hanged rebels, but most of the original inhabitants were left alone. Their ancestors are still here, on the same soil, happy to be Swedish.

              No concentration camps in Sweden. That feature was invented by the British in the Boer war, then copied by USSR in the 30´s and US in WW2, but refined to perfection and made really famous by Germany 1933-45.

              But what is your connection between the 17th century Snapphane war, a recent Swedish socialist government and WW2 concentration camps in the US? You are not making sense. Too many Gammeldansk?
              Last edited by Chemical Ollie; November 9, 2007, 22:09.
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              • #22
                DP
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                • #23
                  I honestly don't see a problem with identify ethnic/religious neighborhoods. It could very well help with community policing.

                  For instance Sacramento has a huge Russian and Ukrainian community including many middle aged and elderly people who didn't speak English and who didn't trust police due to their experiences in the USSR. Sac PD found out Russian Mafia types were targeting immigrants from the former USSR but no one would speak to the police so the Sac PD targeted Russia neighborhoods for extra patrols and made it a priority to hire ethnic Russians and native Russian speakers. End result the immigrants trusted the Russian speaking cops because they were "local boys" and the police finally got a handle on organized crime in the city.

                  That's an example of a police effort which mapped out an ethnic neighborhood, you have to identify the area before you can increase patrolling and community policing, and then brought about improvements.

                  Edit: Hell, LA is such a multicultural city there are literally hundreds of different ethnic and religious enclaves/neighborhoods. I could think of dozens of reasons why it would be helpful to cops to identify which groups live where.
                  Last edited by Dinner; November 9, 2007, 22:27.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Riesstiu IV
                    Threats of terrorism from the muslim community is the least of LA's problem. Currently, there is what many consider to be a race war raging between hispanic and black gangs.

                    LA is like a Microcasm for what's wrong with America these days.
                    LAX was targeted with a truck bomb by an Islamic extremist group back in 2001. Fortunately they got caught before they could carry out their plan.
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                    • #25
                      On the one hand our enemies are moslems so it makes sense to focus resources on such groups.

                      OTOH, we need the support of moderate american moslems to fight the intel war against the radicals.

                      On the third hand we could just say ****it, nuke the whole useless area and call it even.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by SpencerH
                        On the third hand we could just say ****it, nuke the whole useless area and call it even.
                        LA?

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                        • #27
                          Who'd miss it?
                          We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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                          • #28
                            Re: Re: Re: Re: LAPD zeroes in on Muslim communities

                            Originally posted by BlackCat
                            1 mill. what is that ? way less than 1 % - many european countries has much higher.

                            It's not the muslims that are the problem, it's those members of the muslim community that gets extreme that are. Those you can't find unless you dig into the muslim community.
                            How many terrorists attacks have been carried out by Muslim Americans?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by SpencerH
                              Who'd miss it?
                              It's a big target for sure, hard to miss.

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                              • #30
                                Well there's at least 2 in jail for giving support to AQ.
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