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  • The Soviet Jewish Autonomous Oblast

    This is some interesting history which I ran across and thought I'd share. Here's the wiki



    In 1928 Stalin considered the USSR's Jewish population to be potential insurrectionists (the man was paranoid even killing loyal red army officers so why shouldn't he target Jews as well?) and there was a feeling among Soviet Jews that they were not being treated equally since they were not officially seen as Russian yet didn't have a national homeland as other Soviet minorities did. Thus Stalin created the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in the Soviet far east next to Manchuria along the Amur river. The idea was to move as many, potentially non-socialist, non-atheist Jews to the far east as possible where they would be isolated and be no threat to Stalin.

    The other motivating factors were the USSR's desire to increase the European population of this section of its remote far east holdings and to counter popular Zionist ideas which motivated some Soviet Jews to (illegally) leave the country and move to British Palestine. The Soviets thought that if they could create a Soviet Zionist destination then Soviet Jews would move there instead of Palestine.

    Unfortunately not many Jews agreed to move to this new Soviet Zion and even those who were forced to go there left as soon as they could. Not that this stopped the Soviet Unions propaganda arm from trumpeting what a success this new Jewish homeland was. Interestingly, the Japanese seem to have believed the USSR's propaganda and western anti-semetic claims about Jewish people's natural abilities to generate money so the Japanese government came up with "the Fugu Plan".

    Wiki for the Fagu Plan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugu_Plan

    The idea of the Fugu Plan was to attract Jews who were disaffected with Soviet Communism and convince them to resettle across the border in Japanese controlled Manchuria. When few Jews decided to move to Manchuria the Japanese agreed to let them move to Japanese occupied Shanghai believing that would attract more Jewish defectors. The Japanese seem to seriously believe that Jews were natural experts at making money and generating new scientific discoveries so they wanted to harness these Jewish powers to help their empire. Funny but true.
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    Oh, yeah. The Japanese even proposed moving Jews from Europe, where the Nazis didn't want them, to Japanese holdings on mainland Asia but the German government turned them down saying it was to expensive and impractical. Besides Hitler preferred a final solution instead of simply moving millions of Jews to Asia.

    It's weird but Japanese naivity after reading anti-semetic propaganda made them just about the only Fascist state actually actively trying to help Jews.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by LordShiva
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        • #5
          In Soviet Russia, Jews Autonomously Oblast you.

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          • #6
            The Japanese seem to seriously believe that Jews were natural experts at making money and generating new scientific discoveries so they wanted to harness these Jewish powers to help their empire. Funny but true.


            They are

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            • #7
              Chiune Sugihara
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              • #8
                Originally posted by DRoseDARs


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                there's a street in vilnius named after the guy and several other monuments, including a sakura garden named after him. The poshest spa is on that street and is usually known as just Sugihara. It's sad that even after his efforts we're still #1 in holocaust victims per capita...
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                • #9
                  The place is in Siberia. Who would want to move there?
                  "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                  • #10
                    Thanks for posting this Oerdin, it's quite interesting and I haven't heard about it before. I knew Madagascar and Uganda had been proposed for Jewish homeland, but never heard of proposals for either Manchukuo or the Jewish Autonomous Oblast (which, funnily, exists today and is larger than Israel proper ).

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                    • #11
                      Yeah but it's sh!t land and permafrost and whatnot. Birobidzhan (the capital city of that region IIRC) is also a city province in HOI2. Too bad you can't release a Jewish vassal there.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
                        The place is in Siberia. Who would want to move there?
                        It's not in Siberia.
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                        Among the poets we are ****.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Oerdin
                          It's weird but Japanese naivity after reading anti-semetic propaganda made them just about the only Fascist state actually actively trying to help Jews.
                          I never knew that! Makes me kinda sorry we A-Bombed them...twice.

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                          • #14
                            Soviet practice to give autonomies to various nationalities always struck me as odd. I mean at one point they tried to abolish money, surely they could have tried to abolish nationality in the name of the New Socialist Man.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
                              The place is in Siberia. Who would want to move there?
                              The Chinese would love to move there.
                              Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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