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  • Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are teh Evil!

    Is fake news now the standard?
    TV journalism is increasingly playing to the Colberts and Stewarts to attract younger viewers.


    Opinion by Jonah Goldberg
    November 6, 2007


    'Pat Philbin, the man who staged a fake FEMA news conference on the California wildfires last week, has lost his promotion because of the event, which begs the question: What does it actually take to get fired from FEMA?" That was the lead story on the latest installment of Weekend Update, the faux news broadcast on "Saturday Night Live."

    Something bothered me about this, and not just Amy Poehler's misuse of the phrase "beg the question." Nor was it the idea that FEMA's staged news conference was scandalous simply because reporters, listening by phone, weren't able to ask questions while FEMA bureaucrats lobbed "fake" questions. There's no such thing as fake questions, after all, only fake answers. Was FEMA's fabrication any more fraudulent than, say, press releases written like real news stories?

    Yes, FEMA's fakery was foolish. But -- and here's what really bugs me -- what isn't in the TV news business these days?

    Poehler, for instance, was co-anchoring a fake news broadcast denouncing a fake news conference. All the while, the guest host of "Saturday Night Live" was NBC's real news anchor, Brian Williams.

    Or take Stephen Colbert, host of a fake cable news show, "The Colbert Report," itself a spinoff from the fake newscast "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart." Colbert was recently a guest on "Meet the Press" -- the Thunderdome of real news -- as he was trying to mount a bogus campaign for president (abandoned Monday). Colbert stayed in character. So did Tim Russert, grilling Colbert as if he were a real candidate, of sorts.

    The exchange vexed Ana Marie Cox, Washington editor of Time.com, who rightly ridiculed the stunt as "painfully so-ironic-it-was-unironic." Cox has a good ear for such things: Her own meteoric rise started with her tenure as the founding Wonkette blogger, where she mocked newsmakers the way robots mocked bad movies on "Mystery Science Theater 3000." Cox sized up the Colbert-Russert show as cringe-worthy -- bad journalism because it was bad entertainment.

    Williams fared better at "Saturday Night Live," successfully showing off his lighter side. But, as with Russert's stunt, it was another naked attempt by NBC to lure younger viewers back to real news. Indeed, while the network news broadcasts are sustained by the consumers of denture cream, adult diapers and pharmacological marital aides, it's "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report" that have a grip on the hip, iPhone crowd. And plenty of those younger viewers seem to believe that they can deduce what's going on in the real world from jokes on a fake newscast. It's no longer funny because it's true. It's true because it's funny.

    Now that's begging the question.

    The problem of parsing fact from fiction, news from entertainment, has been inherent to broadcast journalism from the beginning. Radio newsman Walter Winchell got his start in vaudeville. But in the modern era, I blame "Murphy Brown," the show about a fictional TV newswoman who talked about real newsmakers as if they were characters on her sitcom. When Brown had a baby out of wedlock, Vice President Dan Quayle criticized the writers of the show. Liberals then reacted as though Quayle had insulted a real person. Ever since, journalists and politicians have been playing themselves in movies and TV series, perhaps trying to disprove the cliche that Washington is Hollywood for ugly people.

    TV news is, and always has been, the shallowest branch of journalism. This is why TV journalism in particular operates like a trade guild -- not because it's so hard to do but because it's so easy. (The Brits more forthrightly call their TV anchors "news readers.") For instance, in 2000, Sam Donaldson led a successful internal revolt over a plan to have Leonardo DiCaprio interview President Clinton for ABC News. The essence of the complaint was that viewers wouldn't be able to tell the difference between DiCaprio and a "real" TV reporter. Let's face it, that's true. Even DiCaprio can read questions off an index card or TelePrompTer.

    "Yes, it's a changed business," Donaldson said at the time, "and we ought to recognize that. But we also all have to recognize that we have to do things according to the standards that will help us retain our credibility."

    I think Donaldson was right, but I also don't mind that TV news is trying to be relevant to viewers not on the AARP's mailing list. What I find dismaying is that "relevance" is literally coming at the expense of reality.
    Network news isn't becoming less relevant because it's less entertaining. It's becoming less relevant because, in its blind race for ratings, it has jettisonned substantative news stories and journalistic intregrity.

  • #2
    Basically it's just as ridiculous as Colbert or Stewart, but pretends otherwise.

    -Arrian
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    • #3
      RIght, I think it just makes Stewart and Colbert funnier, because they do... if you think about it from the real news perspective, they're doing a mockery of them. Not just doing the same thing, but they're making fun of their style of reporting, which is a joke to begin with. So as much as it is about the actual news and making fun of it, it's also about news channels themselves. Don't they get it? It's like some people don't understand Colbert is making fun of O'Reilly, NOT being a big fan of him .
      In da butt.
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      • #4
        Obama clearly thinks so
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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        • #5
          would you say they are aggressors?
          Monkey!!!

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          • #6
            no

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            • #7
              would LS?
              Monkey!!!

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              • #8
                I take it the writers strike is an evil plot of network news guys to get rid of the Stewart/Colbert competition
                Blah

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                • #9
                  Does Stewart use writers? All the show needs to do is to show a clip of Bush or some other government official saying something, then CUT TO: Jon Stewart looking dumbfounded at the stupidity of it.

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                  • #10
                    I actually think Stewart does take himself and his political message too seriously, that's why I favor Colbert over Stewart now days.

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                    • #11


                      But I saw a short clip of Jo(h?)n Oliver (sp?) and some unknown DS guy on strike yesterday, so yeah, they use writers.

                      edit: x-post
                      Blah

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                      • #12
                        That's one of the more convoluted, pointless things that I've read here. Pretty remarkable considering how short the piece was.

                        Oh wait, it was written by Jonah Goldberg. I'm shocked...
                        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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                        • #13
                          ...I look forward to Stewart ripping into it.
                          The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                          The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                          • #14
                            I take it Zscrib hasn't paid attention to the TV news reports for the last 20 years, as it has all been infotainment since at least the late 80s. Walter Cronkite was probably the last 'real' news reporter we had nationally; I know that in the 90s on the local CBS network in Chicago one person tried to revive the news hour after Jerry Springer was hired by NBC to do the news (she quit NBC after that and was picked up by CBS). Suffice to say that experiment didn't last long.

                            In summary, if you want to find someone to blame for the lack of news on TV you shouldn't have to look farther than your mirror. We've decided what we want to watch, and it's Stewart & Limbaugh.
                            I'm consitently stupid- Japher
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                            • #15
                              And plenty of those younger viewers seem to believe that they can deduce what's going on in the real world from jokes on a fake newscast. It's no longer funny because it's true. It's true because it's funny.
                              Well lets see, the Fox fake news audience supported invading the wrong country and getting us into a quagmire so their powers of deduction are proven nearly non-existent while the Stewart/Colbert audience would more likely oppose such an action for reasons the Fox audience is just learning.

                              The author doesn't realize that the fake news jokes are exposing the fake politicians who make decisions based on fake claims. To him, the "news" is what the politicians tell us thru media middlemen.

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