Wish me luck! (Job interview tomorrow)

[-Jrabbit]

AC

Good luck tomorrow, Japh. Keep your cool, let them know that you you like the company, that you're loyal, but that you want to advance and do more for them -- just looking for a career path and such.

Let us know what they tell you. Should be interesting.

[Japher]

As a law student I can attest that posting information about one's professional career on the unregulated and uncensored internet is at worst a serious breach of duty and at best DAMN ENTERTAINING for your friends and colleagues.

Seeing as more than half my posts come from work I really don't see a problem

This could be as simple as a little fight between manufacturing and engineering, as they did take a coworker already who deserved the transfer more than me. I would totally stay in manufacturing if the pay were better, as we actually do the same work (me and the engineers).

[Krill]

AC, did you actually pay attention at lectures at this uni? (I'll be honest, I never do...)

[Alinestra Covelia]

Krill: I paid attention once or twice.

There was one time when I handed in a Chaucer essay to my professor... and the VERY NEXT LECTURE he basically read out and plagiarized the whole sodding essay.

You can be bloody certain I listened then!

But, what can you do? I suspect the university has some sort of IP disclaimer saying that anything a student develops in their studies is attributable somehow to shared efforts by the instructor.

I didn't mind him nabbing my essay for his own lecture but it did put me out of joint that he only gave me a "B" for it. If you're going to engage in quasi-ethical violations using my work product, at least have the decency to bribe me for it!

I had a really nice professor for Old Norse and Old English, though. One nighttime I was stuck at a graveyard up in Carrville/Belmont and he dropped by and gave me a lift back to my place. (This sort of bollocks happened to me all the time too back then.)

We also had a very handsome professor for Shakespeare and Milton, although he seemed to be a bit cocky. He had dumbbell weights in his office and would heft them around. At one point he gave me semi-romantic life advice, though, which went something along the lines of "Enjoy your youth, but remember that some day you'll be older and wiser, and you don't want to be looking back on a mere handful of champagne corks."

Who else was there? Our T.S. Eliot professor played saxophone in a jazz band and had us do a reading of the Wasteland in costume. (I was the flower girl, though I'd much rather have been Madame Sosostris the fortune teller.)

I roomed with a pair of Yorkshiremen and a guy from Mickleover. I never did get the pronunciation of Loughborough correct, though. Like any foreigner, I couldn't handle the weird mathematics that equated "Loo-gah-bah-roo-gah" with "Love-Bra". :S

[Krill]

Plagerising

[Japher]

Met with the manager who told me that the reason I wasn't hired was because they wanted one of the two open spots to be filled with a Mechanical Engineer. Which sort of makes sense since the whole department is made up of Chemical Engineers. Still, it sounded a lot like a cop out to me, so they can hire a manager's son. Even if it wasn't, that's how a lot of people seem to be viewing it.

Still, the reason why my coworker was hire over me was because he had led more projects at the current job than I have. Which is true, but not something to base a decision on seeing as I have lead projects elsewhere. Still, if I had a choice between myself and the other guy I wouldn't of chosen me.

In order to be more competitive he told me I should get more project leads. I explained to him that his boss' boss always fought to get only those in the engineering department to be project managers. He, the engineering manager, told me that in my case he would make an exception. This is good and bad; bad because it negates his argument for not hiring me, good because it sets my course of action.

My game plan; get a PM certification from the local university and start taking on projects. I am going to be talking with my manager tomorrow, who I think will support me on this, to go over my plan and get them to pay for the time and fees it would take to get the certification. Additionally, I am going to ask that the manufacturing department sponsor me on this with the knowledge that I am not doing this to get into the engineering department (which I really do not want to work for). However, I want more responsibility and a better title for doing such within the department. I really don't think my superiors will balk at this.

Anyway, it makes me feel better because I was more concerned that they didn't hire me because they thought I was difficult to work with or wasn't doing good at my current job, etc. They saw a business need and while wrong about their choice made one, which is more than I can say for some departments. Also, I get what I want, PM experience while working for who I want to work for. Not to mention, I will still have my time to get my MBA, and if I am not given what I want at the current company by then will at least have PM experience along with a paid for MBA to leverage elsewhere.

Here's to the unseen hand

[Riesstiu IV]

They terk yer jerb!

[Cort Haus]

I have an interview tomorrow. I doubt I'll get it though, partly because there are supposedly 250 applications for each job in the UK and I don't have some of the things on the list, partly because I've been distracted from preparing today by another, far better job that I had a 1st (phone) interview for this afternoon, but mainly because some hot bird with big tits will float the guy's boat who is making the decision. As has happened before. (This is actually jokey speculation)

[VetLegion]

Good luck Cort.

I also have an interview tommorow (today as it's past midnight), but it's not because I need to change my job. I applied to a couple of positions in different companies just to try to see what is realistic pay in the market these days.

[Japher]

Have fun Vet...

That is how I got the job I have now... realized I could be doing far less and get paid far more.

[Cort Haus]

Good luck then Vet.

And when Croatia gets in the EU feel free to come over here and compete with me, win the job , work for two years then take the money home to Croatia and live like a king for a decade. That's what all the Poles are doing, after all.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Japher
That is how I got the job I have now... realized I could be doing far less and get paid far more.

In my last job I did this - got twice the money for half the work. Unfortunately the good times ended when the long-term contract fizzled out and times have been less good since, to put it mildly.

Hopefully more good times are not too far away...

[VetLegion]

I would, but I don't like the rain
I'm coming one day to tour the Isles, there are many places I read about and want to visit, from Wales to Scotland. But that's it. If I ever move to a foreign country I'm heading straight to USA.

[Japher]

I think it is a good idea to always have opportunities open and to constantly be working to improve yourself. The reason I even applied for the job in the OP was for opportunity, not necessarily to get the job. As it turned out I didn't get it, but as it turned out I didn't want it.

I still have an insurance job prospect which will pay lots if I get it, should come up next quarter. Also, the MBA and an invention idea will keep me busy. Not to mention work.

I think interviewing when you don't need a job is the best way to move up in the world.

[Wezil]

I think we need an invention thread bump/update.