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    Jury awards father $11M in funeral case

    BALTIMORE - A grieving father won a nearly $11 million verdict Wednesday against a fundamentalist Kansas church that pickets military funerals out of a belief that the war in Iraq is a punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.

    Albert Snyder of York, Pa., sued the Westboro Baptist Church for unspecified damages after members demonstrated at the March 2006 funeral of his son, Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder, who was killed in Iraq.

    The jury first awarded $2.9 million in compensatory damages. It returned in the afternoon with its decision to award $6 million in punitive damages for invasion of privacy and $2 million for causing emotional distress.

    Snyder's attorney, Craig Trebilcock, had urged jurors to determine an amount "that says don't do this in Maryland again. Do not bring your circus of hate to Maryland again."

    Church members routinely picket funerals of military personnel killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, carrying signs such as "Thank God for dead soldiers" and "God hates fags."

    A number of states have passed laws regarding funeral protests, and Congress has passed a law prohibiting such protests at federal cemeteries. But the Maryland lawsuit is believed to be the first filed by the family of a fallen serviceman.

    The church and three of its leaders — the Rev. Fred Phelps and his two daughters, Shirley Phelps-Roper and Rebecca Phelps-Davis, 46 — were found liable for invasion of privacy and intent to inflict emotional distress.

    Even the size of the award for compensating damages "far exceeds the net worth of the defendants," according to financial statements filed with the court, U.S. District Judge Richard Bennett noted.

    Snyder claimed the protests intruded upon what should have been a private ceremony and sullied his memory of the event.

    The church members testified they are following their religious beliefs by spreading the message that soldiers are dying because the nation is too tolerant of homosexuality.

    Their attorneys maintained in closing arguments Tuesday that the burial was a public event and that even abhorrent points of view are protected by the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech and religion.

    Earlier, church members staged a demonstration outside the federal courthouse. Church founder Fred Phelps held a sign reading "God is your enemy," while Shirley Phelps-Roper stood on an American flag and carried a sign that read "God hates *** enablers." Members of the group sang "God Hates America" to the tune of "God Bless America."

    Snyder sobbed when he heard the verdict, while members of the church greeted the news with tightlipped smiles.


    Finally a sign that there is justice in the world.
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    I doubt they will pay much of anything.
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    • #3
      I'm not usually in favour of litigious behaviour, but this seems right. A good kicking would probably have sufficed, though.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GePap
        I doubt they will pay much of anything.
        Do you really think that was the point?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by DinoDoc
          Do you really think that was the point?
          I am shocked DD! You didn;t make a throwaway post about Tort Reform??? FOR SHAME!
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          • #6
            I however am completely bored that you made an expected stupid post.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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            • #7
              I wonder what they actually have in the way of assets, anyway. They all live in an enclave of houses that are right next to each other, but...
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              • #8
                Finally a sign that there is justice in the world.
                there's a little thing called freedom of speech. Just because their hate speech is offensive, doesn't mean the don't have the right to say it.

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                • #9
                  Have you becomes a Kuci clone or something DD?

                  That kind of non-contribution is usually his style.
                  If you don't like reality, change it! me
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                  "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dis
                    there's a little thing called freedom of speech. Just because their hate speech is offensive, doesn't mean the don't have the right to say it.
                    It's to do with where they say it, not what they say.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GePap
                      Have you becomes a Kuci clone or something DD?
                      That's uncalled for.
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                      • #12
                        The location strikes me as central to the message. Like with flag burning, I think this is protected speech.

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                        • #13
                          Ah, yes. That "church" deserve it. Preaching the gospel is one thing, the Bible is quite clear on the sin part, but preaching hate against other people, whatever their sin, is so totally un-christian. We are ALL sinners.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                            The location strikes me as central to the message. Like with flag burning, I think this is protected speech.
                            Careful... Your bedroom/A 380 suite/wherever is central to the message against premarital (or god-forbid... adulterous) sex.

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                            • #15
                              The church members testified they are following their religious beliefs by spreading the message that soldiers are dying because the nation is too tolerant of homosexuality.

                              Their attorneys maintained in closing arguments Tuesday that the burial was a public event and that even abhorrent points of view are protected by the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech and religion.
                              yup, this better not stand because it is CLEARLY discrimination based on content and a violation of both religious freedom and the freedom of expression. If y'all dont like the way our freedoms have been whittled away, this sure aint helping the cause... Cheering the decision is...shortsighted...

                              It's to do with where they say it, not what they say.
                              Oh really? So, if these people stood there with signs of support and blessings they'd be getting sued?

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