I just finished Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged", and I really need to know...

[The Mad Monk]

Thanks for the advice, Dr. Ferris!

[Lancer]

Great book! I enjoyed the concept of a modern society backtracking towards the dark ages. I don't know if its possible however. Certainly the Soviet Union could be an example with their workers motto 'If they pretend to pay us, we'll pretend to work', and their socialist state certainly didn't provide much motivation to achieve. Everyone became a leach, the nation got sucked dry. I see similarities to the society in Atlas Shrugged.

[Theben]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel
I'd rather be bioshocked than read that book.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Lancer
Great book! I enjoyed the concept of a modern society backtracking towards the dark ages. I don't know if its possible however. Certainly the Soviet Union could be an example with their workers motto 'If they pretend to pay us, we'll pretend to work', and their socialist state certainly didn't provide much motivation to achieve. Everyone became a leach, the nation got sucked dry. I see similarities to the society in Atlas Shrugged.

And congratulations on being duped.

[The Mad Monk]

Re: Re: I just finished Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged", and I really need to know...

Originally posted by LordShiva


There weren't any worthy women left for them, so it would be most appropriate.

That's the reasoning I had, but since she dosen't come right out with it I wasn't sure.

[Alinestra Covelia]

Okay, just played Bioshock. Excellent game.

Also, quite possibly the best application I've found for reading Ayn Rand. I enjoyed the game quite a bit with its references to Atlas Shrugged.

[The Mad Monk]

"I grew the forest and I owned the Forest, and I burned it so they couldn't take it"

[Guynemer]

Excellent thread necromancy.

Although, not surprisingly, Kuci won it with the first reply.

[Uncle Sparky]

Anther book I started reading, then put aside for when I'm dead.
My favourite quote on Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged"-

"I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days." - Max Berry

[Guynemer]

Pretty much.

I really enjoyed "Company" and "Jennifer Government".

[The Mad Monk]

Is that government by, for, and of girls named Jennifer?

[Elok]

Dear Ms. Rondeau:

You asked me to explain the meaning of my sentence in The Fountainhead: "To say 'I love you' one must first know how to say the 'I."

The meaning of that sentence is contained in the whole of The Fountainhead. And it is stated right in the speech on page 400 from which you took the sentence. The meaning of the "I" is an independent, self-sufficient entity that does not exist for the sake of any other person.

A person who exists only for the sake of his loved one is not an independent entity, but a spiritual parasite. The love of a parasite is worth nothing.

The usual (and very vicious) nonsense preached on the subject of love claims that love is self-sacrifice. A man's self is his spirit. If one sacrifices his spirit, who or what is left to feel the love? True love is profoundly selfish, in the noblest meaning of the word — it is an expression of one's highest values. When a person is in love, he seeks his own happiness — and not his sacrifice to the loved one. And the loved one would be a monster if she wanted or expected such sacrifice.

Any person who wants to live for others — for one sweetheart or for the whole of mankind — is a selfless nonentity. An independent "I" is a person who exists for his own sake. Such a person does not make any vicious pretense of self-sacrifice and does not demand it from the person he loves. Which is the only way to be in love and the only form of a self-respecting relationship between two people.

Ayn Rand

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/02/love-of-parasite-is-worth-nothing.html

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Pretty much.

I really enjoyed "Company" and "Jennifer Government".

"Jennifer Government" should be considered essential reading. One of the most entertaining satires of the post-war period.

[Aeson]

Never read the book Atlas Shrugged, but if it was anything like the movie ... everything in it was gay.