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    Here in the United States there are quite a few museum ships. All 4 Iowas are either museum ships, or on the way to being so, in addition to the misc other Battleships, Aircraft carriers, destroyers, subs, etc.

    The question I have, I guess, is "why is it the United States has so many and other countries have so few?" The U.K., for example, has zero Battleships or aircraft carriers. I can understand why we would have more but come on...not that much more.

    Thoughts?
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    I keep thinking about going to the one in Norfolk.

    Right now the Navy is huge here, and has been for 100ish years. The Navy hasn't been big in Britain since WW2.

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    • #3
      We are a far more martial people than we like to believe. We like our military power. It makes us feel bad ass.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jon Miller
        I keep thinking about going to the one in Norfolk.

        Right now the Navy is huge here, and has been for 100ish years. The Navy hasn't been big in Britain since WW2.

        JM
        Most of our Museum ships are WW2 era...why aren't there any Battleship or Carrier museum ships anywhere else? It isn't like the RN in WW2 was "small".
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        • #5
          Maybe because in europe lots of civilians died because of the last 2 big wars people here rather try to forget this period in history instead of upholding the memory via museum ships.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Proteus_MST
            Maybe because in europe lots of civilians died because of the last 2 big wars people here rather try to forget this period in history instead of upholding the memory via museum ships.
            Why not use them to uphold the memories of those who sacrificed to end the war?
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            • #7
              It could be that different cultures use different things/ways to remember the fallen.

              None are really any better than the others - just what fits that particular culture.
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              • #8
                Re: Museum ships

                Originally posted by Lonestar
                Thoughts?
                Perhaps the countries spend their money on frifolous things like social security?

                Another factor could be that while the US emerged as an economic powerhouse from WW2, most others where in ruins, and simply lacked the funds to keep the obsolete ships afloat after the war.
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                • #9
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                  • #10
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Proteus_MST
                      Maybe because in europe lots of civilians died because of the last 2 big wars people here rather try to forget this period in history instead of upholding the memory via museum ships.
                      IIRC there are some Submarines as museum ships (or rather "boats") in Northern Germany though....
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BeBro


                        IIRC there are some Submarines as museum ships (or rather "boats") in Northern Germany though....
                        At least one there is, the well known Sub at the Marine-Ehrenmal in Laboe.
                        I assume in case of germany, even if we´d like to, we wouldn´t be able to use any large warships as museum ships. All large german warships in the 2 world wars AFAIK were either sunk or confiscated by the victors.
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                        • #13
                          We are a far more martial people than we like to believe. We like our military power. It makes us feel bad ass.
                          Perhaps some other peoples should tear down a few thousand castles/forts/towers

                          In any case, martial or not, large ships are cool.

                          I also think it has alot to do with us being overly protective of our history because we have less of it. England has been producing warships for a 1000 years, their perspective on which ones qualify for saving is probably different.

                          Americans preserve all sorts of weird sites that I am sure the average European would consider historically unimportant.
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                          • #14
                            We also have the Queen Mary. Big ship, not martial.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Arrian
                              We also have the Queen Mary. Big ship, not martial.

                              -Arrian
                              and not american
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