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  • #16
    Originally posted by Elok
    Never read Dawkins so I can't comment, but I agree you're being obnoxious.
    Unbelievable!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DaShi
      They are hardly neutral. They suck away critical thinking from people who embrace them too easily.

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      • #18
        I would rather awaken before dawn and appreciate that I still have a few hours yet to rest, than be woken by my alarm clock and have no time to think.

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        • #19
          I'd be willing to let the religionistas be happy in their own little delusions if they would stop flying planes into buildings and otherwise murdering people.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by chegitz guevara
            I'd be willing to let the religionistas be happy in their own little delusions if they would stop flying planes into buildings and otherwise murdering people.
            And I'd be happy to let you commies blither on about your crackpot social theories if you didn't keep running over pro-democracy protesters with tanks. I guess we both lose.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Elok

                Hmm, how did I know this thread would mention the Obvious Superiority of Hindu Culture over "The West?" Maybe I'm psychic...or have the ability to infer from past events.
                I was trying to illustrate a general point with a specific example.

                Anybody who has a solid amount of time and energy and thought invested in all this won't really be affected. This is true irrespective of whether you're Indic or not. But I used an example I was familiar with.

                Originally posted by Elok

                Never read Dawkins so I can't comment, but I agree you're being obnoxious. Still. And I wouldn't worry about the ethics; your arguments have never yet thrown me into an existential or spiritual crisis. Or anything like one.
                I know it sounds obnoxious, but that doesn't change the fact that it's still a risk.

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                • #23
                  I think that whoever let Aneeshm read those books is unethical.
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                  • #24
                    Is their delusion causing harm or standing in the way of enlightenment?

                    I can't see the harm, if you're also willing to point them in the direction of "enlightenment".

                    Like... don't shatter their worldview and just leave them to sweat it out.

                    I would guess they'd be seeking lots of new answers, and that'd be the time to point them in the direction of a philosophy which actually has answers rather than just dogma. It could be a good oppurtunity for personal growth.

                    I can see nothing inherently ethically wrong with the proposal, but there are right ways and wrong ways and right motivations and wrong motivations...

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                    • #25
                      Aneesh, is it ethically wrong for you to post here? Since you could shatter our view of the world with the enlightenment of indic thought.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Jon Miller
                        Aneesh, is it ethically wrong for you to post here? Since you could shatter our view of the world with the enlightenment of indic thought.

                        JM
                        I don't understand this, whatever it is.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Ethically wrong to recommend Dawkins to someone with a naive/idealist worldview?

                          Originally posted by aneeshm

                          I am no idealist, and I have no overarching ideology, as such. However, I've noticed that many people of my age (19 or 20) are idealists, and they actually believe in things like the triumph of good over evil, and in noble causes, and stuff like that.
                          You seem to believe a lot of similar things about India (that's just an observation, not to qualify such beliefs)
                          Blah

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                          • #28
                            Imagine that you are in a position where you don't know whether you are an informed person whose worldview won't be shattered by acquaintance with Dawkins' works or a "naïve idealist believing in the victory of good over evil". A randomization follows. You have a 50 percent chance of finding yourself as being the informed person and a 50 percent chance of being the naïve idealist. Do you choose to acquaint the naïve idealist with Dawkins?
                            Last edited by Meticulous Man; October 8, 2007, 07:01.

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                            • #29
                              A brilliant way of clarifying it.

                              Yes, I would.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by aneeshm


                                I don't understand this, whatever it is.
                                It's sarcasm.
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