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    Are there any good books on this period that relate military campaigns in italy, france, germany, etc in this period? Mercenary leaders like Francesco Sforza are also of interest. AKA the early to midgame of EU2. The games events made me want to learn more, all i have is WW2 books atm.

    If you dont know any but feel like plugging your current favourite or some classic from any time around then, plug away.
    A ship at sea is its own world. To be the captain of a ship is to be the unquestioned ruler of that world and requires all of the leadership skills of a prince or minister.

    Men grow tired of sleep, love, singing and dancing, sooner than war

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    There are good general resources, such as the LaRousse encyclopaedias, the Fontana series on European history, and individual biographies of the Medicis, Francis I of France and the Borgias.


    I'll have a look through my shelves and see what I can recommend to you.

    Are you interested in the cultural/artistic side too ? The competing cities and states and courts in Italy and elsewhere vied to attract the best artists, scientists and architects and writers too.
    Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

    ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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    • #3
      Are you interested in the cultural/artistic side too ? The competing cities and states and courts in Italy and elsewhere vied to attract the best artists, scientists and architects and writers too.
      Sure, that ties in to understanding whats going on.
      A ship at sea is its own world. To be the captain of a ship is to be the unquestioned ruler of that world and requires all of the leadership skills of a prince or minister.

      Men grow tired of sleep, love, singing and dancing, sooner than war

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      • #4
        Machiavelli's The Prince

        Mac also wrote a book on democracies...was it The Discourses? I think so...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Zkribbler
          Machiavelli's The Prince

          Mac also wrote a book on democracies...was it The Discourses? I think so...
          Republics. I dont think any of the Italian republics of his time would qualify as democracies, even by ancient standards.
          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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          • #6
            If western countries are democratic, why is the majority so often upset with the goverment?

            Originally posted by Zkribbler
            Machiavelli's The Prince

            Mac also wrote a book on democracies...was it The Discourses? I think so...
            The Prince though widely misunderstood
            A ship at sea is its own world. To be the captain of a ship is to be the unquestioned ruler of that world and requires all of the leadership skills of a prince or minister.

            Men grow tired of sleep, love, singing and dancing, sooner than war

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Slade Wilson
              The Prince though widely misunderstood
              True. At one point, Mac says somethiing like, "It's best to be wise, virtuous, loved [etc.] But if you can't be wise, virtuous, loved [etc.], then you should strive to be perceived as being wise, virtuous, loved [etc.]"

              Machiavelli wasn't as machiavellian as he is believed to have been.

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              • #8
                Also chapter 17 ''concerning cruelty and clemency, and whether it is better to be loved than feared'' probably rubs alot of people the wrong way.
                A ship at sea is its own world. To be the captain of a ship is to be the unquestioned ruler of that world and requires all of the leadership skills of a prince or minister.

                Men grow tired of sleep, love, singing and dancing, sooner than war

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                • #9
                  O.k., Terminator, here you go:

                  Empire, War And Faith In Early Modern Europe: Geoffrey Parker (Penguin Books)

                  Europe And A Wider World, 1415-1715: J. H. Parry (Hutchinson University Library)

                  The Old World And The New, 1492-1650: J. H. Elliott (Canto Books)

                  The Reformation: Owen Chadwick (Pelican Books)

                  American Colonies- The Settling Of North America: Alan Taylor

                  The Thirty Years War: C.V. Wedgwood

                  Renaissance Exploration: J. R. Hale


                  These are excellent general books which give a wide-ranging overview of developments in Europe and the wider world:

                  The LaRousse Encyclopaedia Of Modern History, 1500 To The Present Day

                  The Encyclopaedia Of The Renaissance edited by Bergin & Speake

                  The Atlas Of Mediaeval Man by Colin Platt (its title is accurate, but I think it is the best single work to show you what the world outside Europe looked like and how it interacted with Europe from 1100-1500)

                  Expanding Horizons: 1415-1516 and Reform And Revolt: 1517-1600 in the Milestones of History series by Newsweek Books. Many excellent individual essays on aspects of history and particular countries in each volume.

                  Europe Unfolding 1648-1688: John Stoye (Fontana Books History of Europe series)


                  Individual countries:

                  The Netherlands-

                  The Dutch Revolt: Geoffrey Parker

                  The Dutch Seaborne Empire, 1600-1800 : C. R. Boxer

                  The Iberian Peninsula-

                  Moorish Spain: Richard Fletcher

                  The Conquest Of The Incas: John Hemming

                  The Spanish Armada: Colin Martin & Geoffrey Parker

                  Charles V: Manuel Alvarez

                  The Portuguese Seaborne Empire, 1414-1825: C. R. Boxer

                  Italy-

                  The Imperial Age Of Venice, 1380-1580: D.S. Chambers

                  The Italian Renaissance: J. H. Plumb

                  The Medicis, Godfathers Of The Renaissance: Paul Strathern

                  The Borgias: Michael Mallett

                  The Merchant Of Prato: Iris Origo


                  The United Kingdom-

                  Drake's Voyages: K. R. Andrews

                  The Defeat Of John Hawkins: Rayner Unwin

                  My Heart Is My Own, The Life Of Mary, Queen Of Scots: John Guy

                  Peace, Print & Protestantism, 1450-1558: C. S .L. Davies

                  God's Englishman- Oliver Cromwell & The English Revolution: Christopher Hill

                  France-

                  Prince of the Renaissance, The Life of Francois I : Desmond Seward

                  The French Wars of Religion, 1562-1629 : Mack P. Holt

                  The science of the period (and how it had developed, and outside influences on it) is discussed in the two-volume work:

                  Augustine To Galileo - The History of Science A.D. 400-1650: A. C. Crombie


                  I'd also recommend Cambridge University Press's Illustrated History Of Science too.

                  Worldly Goods by Lisa Jardine examines the consumer revolution which was produced by the development of European science, technology and improved manufacturing techniques and the lust for exotica from the newly discovered lands both East and West.

                  The Renaissance Bazaar by Jerry Brotton looks at the intermingling of European art and science with the imported arts and goods of the East, and the influence of places such as Mameluke Cairo and Aleppo on the architecture of Venice.

                  Cairo, The City Victorious by Max Rodenbeck is a 'biography' of the capital of the Fatimid, Ayyubid and Mameluke empires, a city which played a great part in the commerce and enrichment of Pisa, Genoa, and Venice and Sicily.

                  A History Of Mediaeval Islam by J. L. Saunders and Discovering Africa's Past by Basil Davidson both look at areas important for the development of Western Europe.

                  Food In History by Reay Tannahill explores the effects of the food revolution in Europe, Africa and Asia wrought by the imported foodstuffs from the New World.

                  The period just prior to the Europa Universalis game is also examined in Steven Runciman's The Kingdom Of Acre And The Later Crusades in his series on the Crusades, and in John Julius Norwich's Byzantium: The Decline And Fall.


                  The Secret Life Of Paintings by Richard Foster and Pamela Tudor-Craig reveals in great detail the background, subject matters and techniques employed in two crucial Renaissance paintings, Botticelli's Primavera and Hans Holbein's The Ambassadors.

                  Painting of the Month
                  Holbein, 'The Ambassadors', 1533
                  Special Feature: 'The Ambassadors' explained

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                  Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                  ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                  • #10
                    nice, ill start checking those out later
                    A ship at sea is its own world. To be the captain of a ship is to be the unquestioned ruler of that world and requires all of the leadership skills of a prince or minister.

                    Men grow tired of sleep, love, singing and dancing, sooner than war

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