Russia's 9/11

[Dr Strangelove]

Yeah, but then there was the mysterious Anthrax scare afterwards.

Oh, and the Moscow apartment building bombing was followed by the Opera House incident and the Beslan School incident.

[RGBVideo]

I'm sorry, you have failed

Originally posted by Slaughtermeyer
We'd never seen anything like 9/11. Except we had, and didn't recognize it. We needn't go back to Operation Northwoods, the Lavon Affair, or the other false flags of suppressed history. Just two summers before, nearly identical mechanisms of terror and control were deployed upon the Russian people to consolidate the transfer of power to Vladimir Putin, who was facing his first election, and to provide the pretext to invade Chechnya.

Four apartment complexes had been bombed and 300 killed. Putin promised to ‘liquidate all terrorists.’ He proclaimed Russia was facing a war between ‘good’ and ‘evil.’ ‘It’s our boys,’ said Putin, fanning war fever and hysteria, ‘against terrorists’ belonging to an ‘international Islamic conspiracy.’

Residents in the city of Ryazan discovered a huge bomb in their basement and called the local police. Initially, federal authorities claimed terrorists had been thwarted, but when the perpetrators were apprehended shortly thereafter by Ryazan police, and found to be agents of Russia's security service FSB, the story changed: it was now claimed to have been an "exercise," and the sack of explosive hexogen was said to have contained nothing but "sugar." In 2002, an incurious Duma voted against a parliamentary inquiry into the bombing campaign.

The war in Chechnya is on-going. 10% of the Chechen population is dead. Thousands of Russian conscript soldiers are dead.

Disbelief, a documentary regarding the bombings and the revelation of state guilt, may be viewed here.

Not only by history's precedence, but by current events, 9/11 isn't really that extraordinary.

It's interesting to note how Western pundits who would likely dismiss as nonsense the mere suggestion of a 9/11 conspiracy have no problem at all assessing the Russian apartment bombings as state terror. David Satter, a fellow of the Hoover Institution and the Hudson Institute and former Moscow correspondent for the Financial Times of London, wrote "The Shadow of Ryazan" with funding from the Smith Richardson Foundation, an abbreviated version of which was published by The National Review.

It's funny how easily the generalized dismissals of conspiracy, such as how it meets a "psychological need," or that "something so big couldn't be kept a secret," vanish into one's political blind spots. That is, to the opinion makers, conspiracy can be the most reasonable explanation of events, so long as it's over there, and it's something they do. Satter finds the FSB guilty of waging a false-flag terror campaign against the Russian people and pronounces the Putin regime illegitimate, but don't expect him to be called a kook in a tinfoil hat for it.

And just as in Russia's 9/11, some of the agents assigned to perform the false flag terror on 9/11 in the US were caught in the act of trying to blow up one of their targets but then released due to a successful government coverup.

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[Traianvs]

Re: I'm sorry, you have failed

Originally posted by VJ

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There's no denying that Putin, the FSB and the Kremlin made great use of the incident. It gave Putin a blanc cheque to do pretty much whatever he wanted to in Chechnya.
Politics in Russia are very dirty at the moment. Luckily some important people are starting to recognize this instead of grovelling at Putin's feet like they used to do a few years back.

[Dr Strangelove]

You know the Chechen government at the time was competing with the Taliban in Afghanistan for the title of the world's most extreme muslim government. They had already made capital crimes out of homosexuality, conversion of muslims to Christianity, and marriage between muslims and Christians unless the Christian converted first. They had made it a crime for Christians to hold any power over muslims in private or public institutions. Remember that the goverment of Chechnya was not fairly elected, nor was it fully independent of Russia. Would any nation on earth tolerate such conditions from a local government within its borders? I don't think that Russia really needed an excuse to remove the Chechen rebel government, they only needed time to consolidate power enough to do so.

[Ecthy]

Go away. all of you.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Ecthy
Go away. all of you.

[Ecthy]

This subforum sucks.

[Traianvs]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
You know the Chechen government at the time was competing with the Taliban in Afghanistan for the title of the world's most extreme muslim government. They had already made capital crimes out of homosexuality, conversion of muslims to Christianity, and marriage between muslims and Christians unless the Christian converted first. They had made it a crime for Christians to hold any power over muslims in private or public institutions. Remember that the goverment of Chechnya was not fairly elected, nor was it fully independent of Russia. Would any nation on earth tolerate such conditions from a local government within its borders? I don't think that Russia really needed an excuse to remove the Chechen rebel government, they only needed time to consolidate power enough to do so.

Like Akhmad Kadyrov's reign was any better

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ecthy
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[Darius871]

Originally posted by Ecthy
This subforum sucks.