The reason I don't like radical feminists

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Everyone but you right?

Or if not, why do you hate yourself so much Kid (besides the obvious reasons)?

Good point actually.

Yes, I am sexist. It's something that I can't even help. In fact, I don't even blame it on society. I think I would be sexist anyway.

Do I hate myself? No. Of course not. I don't hate myself or any men even though they are sexists. Yes, I said they are sexists. All of my friends are sexists.

Thinking men are sexists doesn't mean you hate them.

So if you think a feminist is a man-hater then you have to believe that I hate myself. You have to call me a self-hater. You have to call most feminist men self-haters. Hope you like the company you keep with those who call people self-haters for political reasons.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Wezil


Good points.

Except for the "remote" bit. We do that for the same reason men drive when going out as a couple. Women suck at it.

Of course, because they want you to be the big strong man, able to handle mechanical devices, and save them.

It's foreplay.

[Wezil]

I'll buy that for a dollar.

[Kidlicious]

Funny but true.

[Shrapnel12]

Wezil,
Actually the study I'm trying to find shows that men and women are just as likely to be a victim of violence, but you are right. Violence as a whole is the issure and that's what we should focus on, not women vs men

Kid,
You get control of the remote!? Men get that privledge? Now tell my wife that. In all fairness, though I disagree with a lot of Kid's conclusions, I will admit I am sexist as well. I've had a few bad expierence with women that I unfortunately blame other women for as well. I know that not all women are witches, I just haven't met one yet that isn't.

[Wezil]

The difference of course is in who is committing the violence. With men it is much more likely to be a stranger whereas with women it willl be someone they know (someone who "loves" them).

As I say, I lived with a rad fem in university. Hence my reluctance to engage this debate on a serious level. I've been there and done that and have the scars to prove it.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Shrapnel12
Kid,
You get control of the remote!? Men get that privledge? Now tell my wife that. In all fairness, though I disagree with a lot of Kid's conclusions, I will admit I am sexist as well. I've had a few bad expierence with women that I unfortunately blame other women for as well. I know that not all women are witches, I just haven't met one yet that isn't.

You are in a bad marriage, and you can't control the remote? Ouch! Sorry to hear that. I was divorced 2 years ago.

My wife always made sure I had control of the remote, drove the car and everything. Didn't make her an angel though. Far from it. Of course she got addicted to drugs and I think she should be diagnosed psychologically ill (probably narcissism).

[Odin]

Looks like Kid is continuing to go off the deep end.


I am not sexist, i don't care if some postmodernist or structuralist wacko intellectual insists otherwise based on some BS pseudo-sociological navel-gazing.

[SlowwHand]

I drive, period. I took Playful to Utah, dropped her off to take care of some things. 1200 miles each way, the return alone. I drove every foot of it. I don't ride.

[Kidlicious]

I guess Odin's dates always drive.

[SlowwHand]

Probably. Driving is a masculine thing.

[Wezil]

I don't mind being a passenger, so long as another guy is driving.

My ex had what I call a "curb quota". She would hit 1 per hour.

[Kidlicious]

My ex gets to drive her new husbands truck. She already wrecked it.

[Arrian]

Now that is ridiculous. It wasn't a compliment so it was an insult? Come on now, give us a break here. She was simply stating the way she sees things. It's not meant to be an insult or a compliment.

If you recall, you asserted that what she said was a compliment. Now you say it wasn't a compliment and get on my case for pointing that out? WTF? It was a condescending thing to say, and as such insulting. There are far worse insults, of course.

Yes they do. Just because mommy and daddy tell you that men and women are equal doesn't mean that that's what you learn. Children know to pay attention to how you act. The man has control of the remote. The man decides where to eat, where to live etc.. He might ask the women's opinion sometimes, but the key is that the man asks the women for her opinion. Therefore the man is in control. Kid's read this as the man is superior. You can tell them something different, but they will go with how you act.

That bears no resemblance to my life, except for the TV remote. That I do hog a bit

My father made a point of deferring to my mother on lots of things. He's not perfect, but the man did a damned good job of teaching me, both in words and in deeds, to respect women and see them as equals (as did my mother, obviously).

It's sad, really, that you cannot conceive of a upbringing like that.

-Arrian

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Arrian
If you recall, you asserted that what she said was a compliment. Now you say it wasn't a compliment and get on my case for pointing that out? WTF? It was a condescending thing to say, and as such insulting. There are far worse insults, of course.

My point was that what she said was not meant to compliment you. It was meant simply as a clearification or her POV for those who call her a man-hater.

I also told you to take it as a compliment, because (IMO, and that's the key) she was optimistic.

My father made a point of deferring to my mother on lots of things.

self pwnage. Your father deferred to your mother. In your own words you are saying that your father was superior.