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  • #16
    The only reason for using this hormone is to agribusiness to make more money. Our health is put at risk in order to improve the bottom line.


    Clearly a socialist economy would never have any reason to use these hormones. It's impossible that they are, in fact, a useful tool to increase output, and are a positive contribution to our economy. Right?

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    • #17
      Let me guess, you believe the agribusiness has no influence over the FDA, the FDA makes its decision purely on scientific facts and the U.S. government never makes a mistake.
      Golfing since 67

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      • #18
        Let me guess, you think they must have made a mistake here, based only on your prejudices and not an informed scientific opinion.

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        • #19
          On the contrary. While you believe that your government is infallible, I see two different opinions: the U.S. and Canada saying it is okay, the EU saying it is not.

          I'll side with caution because the benefits of using the drugs do not justify its use.
          Golfing since 67

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Tingkai
            On the contrary. While you believe that your government is infallible


            Don't put words in my mouth.

            I see two different opinions: the U.S. and Canada saying it is okay, the EU saying it is not.


            Popular sentiment in the EU has said it is not, the FDA (possibly influenced by drug companies) has said that it is. The FDA is the only one that has the chance of having science on its side; Europe's popular opposition is completely uninformed.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Kuciwalker
              Public sentiment has no relation to scientific fact.
              I agree completely. Those 24 countries have totally ignored scientific facts.
              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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              • #22
                I think the problem now would be providing a list of products imported from China that are safe for the consumer to use since the country seems to be shipping so much poisonous crap over here. It will aid the consumer in thier purchases.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #23
                  Can we just ban China already?
                  "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                  "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                    I agree completely. Those 24 countries have totally ignored scientific facts.
                    LOL! Clever! I would never have thought of something cute like that. Wait, no, that was just dumb in the absence of any sort of evidence.

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                    • #25
                      Having dealt with both the FDA and the MHRA I would have to say that the MHRA is way more anal about food and drug safety than the FDA. Not that public opinion encourages this one way or another. However, the MHRA, in the drug industry at least, is a bigger stickler about the manufacturing process where as the FDA is more concerned about tracability and QA release. Meaning, the drugs may be fine, but if they aren't made a certain way then they aren't fine. This goes for animal drugs or people drugs.

                      Still, how China thought they'd get away with making drug coctails is beyond me.

                      Next thing you know they'll be lining lunch boxes with lead!
                      Monkey!!!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tingkai
                        Yes, there are safety problems in China, but the meat is a separate issue.
                        Then why is the meat recall part of the Chinese PR defense of the exports?
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DanS
                          Then why is the meat recall part of the Chinese PR defense of the exports?
                          Who said it was? Chinese government ministries hold weekly news conference. Every week, the Chinese government announces some type of safety recall (and the situation is so bad that it does seem to happen every week). And some weeks, the Chinese government restrictions on imported goods, some weeks they don't.

                          Just because sometimes A and B get announced together doesn't invalidate B.
                          Golfing since 67

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Lancer
                            That's just flavoring, internal maranade. I've been eating that stuff all my life and I'm healthy. Look at my tounge ---> my teeth--->
                            my eyes---> range of motion--->

                            See, completely normal.
                            This is the first time anyone has ever said that Lancer is completely normal.

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                            • #29
                              Lancer thinks Lancer is normal.
                              "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                              "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                              • #30
                                I know you guys are just being sarcastic, but I ask you, can you do this? --->

                                Moron topic, when I'm in the Philippines for a while, eating food that hasn't been fed all the chemicals, I do feel better. Well, that could either be the fresh food or the cheap rum, hard to tell.
                                Long time member @ Apolyton
                                Civilization player since the dawn of time

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