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    Are US Soldier's American Citizens?

    I'm watching Gonzales' farewell ceremony on c-span, and I have a few questions.

    Craig Morford, Acting Deputy Atty General, says that we have been safer in the 6 years since 9/11 because of all the terror attacks America has endured since then listing those that occurred overseas. So it leads me to ask, do the deaths of our soldiers due to insurgent attacks not count as attacks against America and it's citizens?

    The next question is, if Gonzales did so many great things, why will he be remembered for a corruption scandal that forced him to resign in digrace? Meanwhile, these great accomplishments have yet to be elucidated.
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    "do the deaths of our soldiers due to insurgent attacks not count as attacks against America and it's citizens"

    Yes and no. Yes in a way that they're Americans and they've lost their lives in the battlefield, however, not in the sense of that they are soldiers and they're doign war, it's not an active attack "against the people". So no.

    "The next question is, if Gonzales did so many great things"

    He didn't do anything great, quite the opposite.
    In da butt.
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    • #3
      Soldier's what?
      THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
      AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
      AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
      DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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      • #4
        A) Yes

        B) History will judge, as in all things.
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        • #5
          Re: Are US Soldier's American Citizens?

          Originally posted by DaShi
          The next question is, if Gonzales did so many great things, why will he be remembered for a corruption scandal that forced him to resign in digrace? Meanwhile, these great accomplishments have yet to be elucidated.
          The scandal wasn't about corruption and he didn't resign in disgrace. It was more about him making a rookie mistake. He told the congress one thing while his department was giving the congress documents showing something else.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LordShiva
            Soldier's what?
            Clearly, US soldiers own American citizens. Slavery!
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            • #7
              Re: Re: Are US Soldier's American Citizens?

              Originally posted by DanS
              The scandal wasn't about corruption and he didn't resign in disgrace. It was more about him making a rookie mistake. He told the congress one thing while his department was giving the congress documents showing something else.
              You shouldn't be making rookie mistakes by the time you're working in the White House. Come on, now.
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              • #8
                he disgraced his position and the position of the president (who chose) with his "i dont recall" statements....
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                • #9
                  Re: Re: Re: Are US Soldier's American Citizens?

                  Originally posted by Lorizael
                  You shouldn't be making rookie mistakes by the time you're working in the White House. Come on, now.
                  No doubt. But he did.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #10
                    Congress was just being douches by getting on him for what Clinton did earlier.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MarkG
                      he disgraced his position and the position of the president (who chose) with his "i dont recall" statements....
                      I have mixed feelings when this is used by anyone, just just high up muckety mucks.
                      HOWEVER,
                      It's there for use as one's right. We wanted it there.
                      If we want it there, we want it there for all.
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                      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                      • #12
                        it is not a requirement to be a U.S. citizen to be a U.S. soldier. I've know filipinos in the navy who were not citizens (though he was in the process of obtaining citizenship)

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                        • #13
                          But if over ten thousand Americans are dying to insurgent attacks each year, are we really better off than before 9/11?
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                          • #14
                            Over 10,000 Americans are dying to insurgent attacks each year?

                            Are you pulling a Miss Teen South Carolina?
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #15
                              The soldiers volunteered to fight, the victims of 9/11 did not. George Bush

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