I just went through 600 fights

[Pekka]

Yes it's true.

But I only viewed maybe 50, which is still excessive. I found it interesting to see what kind of fights I would watch. I read the description and I have these flags for myself, like "2 girls vicious beat down". I'm never clicking this baby because I KNOW better. a) It's not a vicious beatdown b) I don't like vicious beatdowns c) it's just two teenage girls pulling hair and crying OR d) 2 ugly fat women going wobble wobble. Now it's different if ti says "2 LATIN girls vicious beatdown". Then it most likely is what it promises, but in any case I'm not watching it.

Brutal KO. Seen too many of them, that's like soft porn. Not interested, waste of time. Besides, it's often some sucker punch and that goes against my preferred fight videos. That's not a fight, that's an attack on someone. Why not just shoot the guy and call it a fight? I mean the other one was present...

"Vicious slam". Now, this depends. Is it a slam on his head on a concrete? If so, not watching it. Too violent, too dangerous, too vicious. Other kind of slam or just an elaborate throw? Hells yeah!! Bring it on!!!!!!! LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR, LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR!!!

After school fight? Not interested.

2 punks bully the wrong guy? YES! Going to see it 10 times in a row, the more brutal the better.

[Imran Siddiqui]

There is something wrong with you.

[Pekka]

Yes. You are wrong with me.

[Solver]

You're amazing, Pekka.

Still on about it then, eh? From your last fight thread and this one, it's interesting that you like fights but don't like, well, unprovoked attacks on people. People who enjoy fights usually are, it seems, also likely to enjoy random punks attacking random guys unable to defend themselves.

Pekka, you have a weird combination of being absolutely nuts yet having a high moral level.

[Pekka]

I disagree with you Solver. Almost all of my friends are fight fans. In fact many of my friends still actively do MMA. THat's the UFC stuff.

About that, we like the chess game of it. It's a game of chess. In the high level, with the real athletes, it's great, it's great competition, it's combat sports. I love it.

Outside that, when it gets to the streets, it's usually always just violence. It's not a sport and rarely it's competition. It can be, but VERY rarely. Maybe some underground fights are competition, but other than that? Not really.

The reason I wouldn't like it is because there's a victim. If someone goes and beats someone up, it's just beating some victim up. Now, if I was into the violent aspect of it 100%, I'd enjoy that. But I don't, it makes me sick, it's sickening and I hope that person goes to jail for a long time for it.

I usually don't like fixed street fights either, because there's no skill involved, it's bound to be a bad match up, meaning the other one is a lot better than the other one. I don't like to see one sided fights on MMA either, unless I'm betting money .

THe point is, we can exclude all street violence out of my preference and include the ones where 2 guys are battling it out and no one gets seriously hurt and everyone is willing. Then there's no victim. The victim makes the difference here, plus if someone gets injured badly.

I'm also not the kind of person you usually see in those idiot crowds, I don't cheer on people to fight. Those kinds of fights are never good anyway. It's the ones that are fixed or the ones where both parties want to fight and are ready to go.

[Pekka]

And about bullies getting beaten, that's a different thing. That's a think of justice. If you are a bully and videotape these things where you go beat someone up, especialyl if you have a friend with you and pick someone who looks like they won't resist a lot and make them your punching bag, this pattern is pretty frequent too... and then the weird little guy just turns and smashes the bullies into bits and pieces? Yeah, that's good fun. They absolutely deserved it. It's still violence, but hey, sometimes it's OK .

And no, I don't want people to tell me that ohhhh but fair fights are rare and you can't make up the rules on the streets. Exactly. That's why I opt not to watch THOSE videos at all, but the rare fair ones.

There's a huge difference between... like for example a fight fan might say "I like boxing". Fanatic about it too. Maybe even likes to see those bareknuckle fights people do. But it's not the same thing as liking these videos about some group beating up some random person.

Also, 95% of the fights on the internet I've seen are usually pretty bad anyway. No display of any kinds of skills. To me, that's not appealing. People just pounding each others faces in with weird looking slaps and punches? Not interested.

So that's why the videos where some bullies are attacking some lonely guy, and he turns out to be a fighter, they're the best . I mean fighter as in they didn't take few classes back in the days but you can see they are active fighters, actively fighting, boxers or other type of guys, and they just beat the snot out of the bullies adn atackers.. that's good entertainment to me, I consider it fun, justified and also very pleasing.

[Solver]

I was referring to non-sports fights. I recognize combat sports to be a separate type of fights - the attractiveness of those quite eludes me, though.

I agree about the bullies getting beaten, though. Fights with actual victims normally disgust me, but some deserve what they get.

[Pekka]

Yeah yeah, when there's a victim, it is disgusting. And it's a good thing, I dont' want people to get so used to it that they don't think it's a big deal. It is, and often it's dangerous too and it's definitely criminal. I don't even watch them for the "car crash" effect. Because it's disgusting and why woudl I want to feel disgusted on my own time for no reason at all? Just makes me all worked up.

[Jon Miller]

I watched some porno of women wrestling and then the winner got to do whatever they wanted with the loser. I think they got extra points for doing sexual things to eachother, but some of the stuff was definitely humiliating/painful.

I don't think it was healthy to watch.

I have never had interest in watching standard fights, and wouldn't have watched this except for the lesbian flag.

JM

[MRT144]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07v-Qn3n88g

perfect example of what pekka is talkign about.

[Pekka]

mrt144, yeah yeah, I almost talked about that particular video but then decided not to

Another great one is this Turkish guy, I guess in Turkey, he fights off like tons of guys. He's freaking awesome too, these guys come in pairs and groups of 3, he just runs backwards and keeps knocking the attackers down and at the end he wasn't even hurt, it was maybe like 7 or 8 guys overall. Crazy situation, but the dude just was awesome.

You can find that one on youtube as well, it's pretty popular. Turkey, guy fighting off like 7 or 8 dudes.

But that video is rpetty good too, it's funny how the guys get up and start talking **** after the couple is away from them, so they get brave again

[Colon™]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
There is something wrong with you.

[Kataphraktoi]

Whats wrong with liking fights? I share the feelings on painful dangerous fights too, anything that looks dangerous makes me sick. Or pro wrestling

[East Street Trader]

I'm afraid this is a little bit sick, Pekka.

I've no real idea how you can bring your taste for violence and confrontation under better control but I am pretty sure that it is not by indulging it.