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[Pekka]

You made it out all wrong. There would be business interest in it if they knew they wouldn't get their products banned, even if they were safe or relatively safe. That was the point, so the issue is a legal one, the business decision is based on a legality at the end. Then you turned it into an offensive war from your part. I already stated the obvious, so you had a problem with the obvious possibly because you misunderstood me or something.

OK here's the play by play:

Sorry, but I think vaccines have to take precedence.
You'll just have to get high on life, Pekka.

"Sorry, but I think there is no business motive to develop party drugs. And we have priorities, so vaccines are the ones that needs to be produced because they are more important. Fun is not important. Drugs are bad. Boring people are what makes life worth living. We prioritize all the time, yesterday I prioritized getting a balloon instead of new pair of shoes. And your party drug wanting ass is rotten, because all you want to do is to get high, so I JUDGE you and undermine your career in the security field by stating that you are a drug driven monster.

MY ANSWER to these insults:

Jrabbit, don't be a fool. There is a demand for drugs, so you're telling me that all these pharmas are just for curing people? **** no, it's a business, don't be naive.

If it was legal to produce safe party drugs, you think there wouldn't be a huge industry already doing it? It's not a question of prioritizing, it's a question of supply and demand.

I'm saying of course there's a demand, please, do not think there isn't. You would be fool to think so. Oh, and I just repeated this whole legality issue again, which must have been understood so from now on you're just trying to make me feel uncomfortable and attack me.

YOU SAY:

Pekka, yo're the one being naive. At least here in the states, I can guarantee there would be immediate call to make such things illegal. And no politician in his right mind will vote pro-drug.

No pharmaceutical company would risk its reputation and stock price on such things when the health insurance industry is more than happy to support whatever price levels are needed for the profitable research and production of medical products.

YOU ARE AN IDIOT DRUGGIE AND THIS IS A QUESTION OF YOUR MORALITY! NO POLITICIANS, AT LEAST THE ONES I VOTE FOR, WHO ARE GOOD HUMAN BEINGS, WOULD EVER ACCEPT YOUR CRAZY TALKS!

Listen you foreign bastard, You are being a typical European bastard, why don't you get this into your deep skull, we don't like your kind here! Get your drugs and records and go away, we don't want you here.

My answer to your absurd ranting:

What? Do you deliberately not understand english? You can't hide behind me being too confusing about it.

Read my posts, come back again and apologize for being stupid.

All I want is for you to understand where I come from. I'm sorry, I might be a stupid furriner but I'm not a bad person, at least I think I'm a good person and my mother thinks I'm a good person as well. Let's find some common grounds here and try to get away from this ugly thing.

You attack again:

What, so you want the drug companies to develop drugs for you to party with. Nice fantasy, but I'm just saying it's not going to happen. How hard is that?

YOU crazy man with your drug fantasies, I hope you won't get the drugs because you just want to have drugs and have sex with little boys, don't you? You sick European bastard, we know your kind around here!
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And then you say I'm picking a fight? You know after all that condescending rhetorics you pulled, all the accusation, all the name calling you started with, I think you should realize that your way was the wrong way.

[Pekka]

I'm just saying I'm trying to be your friend and you're making it so difficult with your attacks. I'm trying my best to keep cool and calm and just let you do your thing, because I'm sure that after a while you will regret your aggressive ways and when you remember that I was just being a twig that you wanted to bend and break and I never lashed back at you, just bended. I have good harmony inside me, the ying and the yang. You want to be a storm that rages and ravages everything, that leaves nothing but pain behind.

Well I'm trying to cure that pain Jrabbit, and I hope you would understand that or at least respect the fact that we are different in our ways. I'm just trying to be peaceful.

[-Jrabbit]

"A storm that rages"? "Leave nothing but pain"? I think the overwhelming view of me here at Poly is quite the opposite.

If what you say is true, this has been a pretty odd attempt at friendship. And your judgment of my personality is so far out in left field as to be laughable.

I haven't attacked you. I haven't knowingly criticized you. I've really just agreed with you, while pointing out the obvious realities of why pharm companies stick to meds and stay away from recreational drug projects. There's nothing controversial in those posts, and nothing personal. This is made painfully obvious in your detailed listing of the perceived insults you choose to find in my innocuous remarks. I'll gladly open this debate to the court of public opinion.

Could it be that you took the posting of Huey Lewis lyrics personally?

Obviously, I've somehow offended your delicate sensibilities. I assure you it was unintentional.

Take a deep breath. Relax.

[DaShi]

Hey! This thread was supposed to be about loving your fellow posters. That and something about vaccines and Apple jokes.

[Apocalypse]

I love Asher.

[Pekka]

Jrabbit, It's difficult for you to see how aggressive you are, because you have this image of yourself that is peaceful.

But look at the results. I tried to be friendly, I tried to find common grounds. I presented the hand of conflict resolution, but you bit that hand. You were aggressive, you called me names, you implied that I'm a druggie and your implications were sickening considering that reputation is a big part in my profession.

Your ad hominems were not precision strikes but carpet bombing, trying to discredit me as a person and as a professional. I'm surprised you didn't threaten my family, but I guess it's hidden there somewhere between the lines as well, or coming soon. That's the way people like you operate, you threaten people, their livelyhoods and then you try to be the good guys and say woaah, I didn't do anything.

Well you did, you are exposed. You are now standing naked in front of the crowd. But we aren't going to stone you. Because we are turning the other cheek, even though this might turn out to be a fatal decision. But we believe in peace. I hope you will believe in it too some day.

[-Jrabbit]

Regarding name-calling, please show me even one example in my posts in this thread. Although at this point, you're tempting me. Now why don't you go back to calling Japher and Gen. Ludd a woman in the shopping thread?

Let me point out that it was you who said that you wanted 50 new recreational drugs.

So why not new drugs? I think we deserve new party drugs. Wouldn't it be cool? There would be like this storage room with ... 50 new drugs. 50 new safe party drugs that do all kinds of things to your head. Wouldn't it be like Christmas?

I have no problem with that. I quoted a song I like to that effect. Then -- I thought -- we began to discuss the pharma companies.

How you managed to "read between the lines" and transform this, in your mind, into some sort of attack is totally beyond me. But that is your choice.

If you are so worried that your online identity is going to get busted for being involved in drugs, maybe you should think twice before posting things like this:

We could get all kinds of drugs that gets you high and are reasonably safe, so why aren't we getting those drugs?

No no, I posted a legit thing there.

Why aren't they developing party drugs?

I've never had any problems with you, Pekka. And I'm not looking for any. But I did not attack you. It was clearly quite the opposite, and it's right here for all to see.

[Pekka]

I never attacked you. I suppose it's safe to say thay you won't admit attacking me. I guess this has to do with you racist tendencies.

[-Jrabbit]

Another unjustified attack, calling me a racist. Again, unsupported by any facts.
At this point, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

[Pekka]

I admit that was a harsh defense, almost like an attack. But your defense is more aggressive and more unjustified. And this still doesn't rule out you're not a racist. Or sexist.

[-Jrabbit]

I know that I am neither of of those things, as anyone who knows me IRL would attest without reservation.

[Kuciwalker]

Jrabbit, what the **** is wrong with you? You do realize you're talking to Pekka, right? This is a train wreck.

[-Jrabbit]

Yes Kuci, I know. It's kind of fun. Hope you're enjoying it.

[Wezil]

-Jrabbit - The appropriate response is "WTF Pekka?"

[Pekka]

"I know that I am neither of of those things, as anyone who knows me IRL would attest without reservation."

Right, all your white heterosexual friends will prolly believe you have no prejudice against the homos or different races. But this is besides the point. I'm not trying to assassinate your character like you tried to do with me. I'm not after blood like you are. I don't have the need to make you appear the person you're not.

And if you think this is fun, by all means. People get excited about the weirdest things all the time, car crash, mutilated bodies, raped animals, I mean you can have fun with this as well, it just means you're creative.

Oh and by the way, people who know me in real life would say I'm right and you're wrong.

I think you should be reasonable and stop attacking me. I think you should not post to this thread anymore and by doing that admit you were wrong to begin with.