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  • #16
    They'll just have to import food,air, and water, which their massive trade surplusses and vast hard currency reserves should easily pay for. China

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Blake
      Buying Chinese made is starting to look not just immoral, but morally reprehensible.
      You're overlooking MSNBC's Erin Burnett's argument that, if China isn't allowed to sell us poisoned food and lead-painted toys, the prices at Wal-Mart will rise.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DinoDoc
        How are they going to be able to hold Olympic events?
        You did perfectly fine as well...
        "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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        • #19
          Eh?
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #20
            Progress
            Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

            Do It Ourselves

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Zkribbler


              You're overlooking MSNBC's Erin Burnett's argument that, if China isn't allowed to sell us poisoned food and lead-painted toys, the prices at Wal-Mart will rise.
              I wouldn't mind paying a bit more for Chinese products that won't poison me or dramatically harm the environment.
              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
              "Capitalism ho!"

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Whoha
                They'll just have to import food,air, and water, which their massive trade surplusses and vast hard currency reserves should easily pay for. China
                This made me think of Spaceballs.
                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                "Capitalism ho!"

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                • #23
                  You forgot about the opium dens and sexual slavery of white protestant women, DaShi.
                  Only feebs vote.

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                  • #24
                    Good! The protestants deserve it.
                    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                    "Capitalism ho!"

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DaShi
                      Good! The protestants deserve it.
                      I lol'd.
                      Only feebs vote.

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                      • #26
                        Eventually, I guess, we will come to appreciate that everyone shares the air and the water and the weather.

                        But for now it would seem that we each need to do what we can individually and within each nation to cut back our own pollution.

                        If we wait until everyone is willing to join in it may turn out to be too late.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Blake

                          Okay, on a realistic solution.
                          From Kim Stanley Robinson's "60 days and counting"
                          (It's not much of a spoiler because this is not hugely relevant to the plot as in it doesn't effect the characters)
                          Spoiler:

                          Near the end of the book, the Chinese ecology basically starts dying - at such a rate that it becomes obvious that China itself IS going to die. And China are like "Oh sh*t we f*ck up" and shut down most their powerplants and beg the west for help.

                          It's actually not clear what the timeline is (deliberately), but probably about 2015-2020, certainly there is a complete lack of futuretech.

                          China-extinction level-event is actually looking pretty plausible.

                          Sounds rather silly. What would possibly make the west immune to the same ecocide, let alone able to save china? Are we all living in some sort of techutopia biodomes by then? No, wait. You said no future tech.
                          Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

                          Do It Ourselves

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                          • #28
                            But while southern China is relatively wet, the north, home to about half of China’s population, is an immense, parched region that now threatens to become the world’s biggest desert.

                            This, at least, we need not fear: northern China isn't big enough to house a desert the size of the Sahara (about the size of China) or the Antarctic desert (about one and a half times the size of China).

                            Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                            It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                            The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                            • #29
                              Ah, Communism, how we love you so!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by aneeshm
                                Ah, Communism, how we love you so!

                                China's growth is fueled by the production of consumer goods for western markets.
                                Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

                                Do It Ourselves

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