Greatest Civilization in the World - Hurt or Heal?

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Patroklos
LordShiva and Kataphraktoi just crossed posted

I didn't cross-post, Kat did

[OzzyKP]

errors inevitibly creep in. My advice is to correct them if you spot them, but don't loose sleep over old mistakes that no one caught.

[Patroklos]

errrr wa?

[Kataphraktoi]

I didnt cross post on lordshiva. i entirely disregarded his post as disqualified as he added aliens

And i categorically deny any involvement with the 6 missing points

[LordShiva]

I seem to have succeeded with Persia, so now I'll educate you ignorant Westerners about teh case for India (and on teh origins of Hindu civilisation).

Longevity: Since Sumeria isn't in, it's teh oldest civ on teh list along with Egypt, and unlike Egyptian civilisation, is still around.

Language & Religion: Obviously over all of teh Indian sub-continent (1.6 billion people), but also SE Asia, which was colonized by Indian princes and merchants starting from 200 BC. All of SE Asia was ruled by Indian kingdoms, who built stuff like Angkor Wat. Buddhism and Hinduism were teh dominant religions over almost all of Asia east of Persia and south of Russia, and today (along with teh other Indian religions - Sikhism, Jainism) have >1.5b believers.

The Jawa Dwipa Hindu kingdom in Java and Sumatra existed around 200 BCE.

The history of the Malay-speaking world begins with the advent of Indian influence, which dates back to at least the 3rd century BC. Indian traders came to the archipelago both for its abundant forest and maritime products and to trade with merchants from China, who also discovered the Malay world at an early date. Both Hinduism and Buddhism were well established in the Malay Peninsula by the beginning of the 1st century CE, and from there spread across the archipelago.

Cambodia was first influenced by Hinduism during the beginning of the Funan kingdom. Hinduism was one of the Khmer Empire's official religions. Cambodia is the home to one of the only two temples dedicated to Brahma in the world. Angkor Wat is also a famous Hindu temple of Cambodia.

The Majapahit Empire was an Indianized kingdom based in eastern Java from 1293 to around 1500. Its greatest ruler was Hayam Wuruk, whose reign from 1350 to 1389 marked the empire's peak when it dominated other kingdoms in the southern Malay Peninsula, Borneo, Sumatra, Bali, and the Philippines.

The Cholas excelled in maritime activity in both military and the mercantile fields. Their raids of Kedah and the Srivijaya, and their continued commercial contacts with the Chinese Empire, enabled them to influence the local cultures. Many of the surviving examples of the Hindu cultural influence found today throughout the Southeast Asia are the result of the Chola expeditions.[4]

Mathematics: "Arabic" numerals were invented in India you n00bs. Try building modern civilisation with Is, IIs, Xs, Ls, MCXVIs, and no 0s.

Culture: If Brachy can cite teh "first novel" as a point in Spain's favour, then teh first epics (each much longer than teh Iliad or Odyssey) count even more. And Bollywood is watched all over India, as well as much of teh Middle East, a lot of Africa, and even Russia. It has more viewers than Hollywood, for which America gets points. Nevermind that Bollywood movies mostly suck.

[Hueij]

Without the Aliens (what have they ever done for us?):

10 - USA -
30 - England/Britain
38 – Rome
30 - Greece
28 - Egypt +
34 - Persia
30 - China
22 – India

[Will9]

Originally posted by LordShiva
Longevity: Since Sumeria isn't in, it's teh oldest civ on teh list along with Egypt, and unlike Egyptian civilisation, is still around.

I would classify Indo-Aryan and Harappan as seperate civilizations.

10 - USA
29 - England/Britain
38 – Rome
30 - Greece
30 - Egypt
33 - Persia
30 - China
22 – India

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Will
I would classify Indo-Aryan and Harappan as seperate civilizations.

"India" consists of both.

[Kataphraktoi]

The Cholas excelled in maritime activity in both military and the mercantile fields. Their raids of Kedah and the Srivijaya, and their continued commercial contacts with the Chinese Empire, enabled them to influence the local cultures.

The who what where's had commerce?

[/western]

[Maquiladora]

10 - USA
31 - England/Britain +2
36 – Rome -2
30 - Greece
30 - Egypt
33 - Persia
30 - China
22 – India

[DaShi]

10 - USA
31 - England/Britain
38 – Rome ++
30 - Greece
30 - Egypt
33 - Persia
28 - China--
22 – India

[Nugog]

10 - USA
33 - England/Britain ++
38 – Rome
30 - Greece
30 - Egypt
33 - Persia
28 - China
20 – India --

[EPW]

8 - USA --
33 - England/Britain
40 – Rome ++
30 - Greece
30 - Egypt
33 - Persia
28 - China
20 – India

[Adrian Hon]

10 - USA
33 - England/Britain
36 – Rome
31 - Greece
31 - Egypt
33 - Persia
28 - China
20 – India

[Nugog]

Shouldn't that be Rome on 38?