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    I think a citizen should have the right to defend his home and shoot a burglar. I don't think any person should be expected to wait it out or take the chance that the burglar is alone, unarmed and just goes away when you say so.

    In such high stress situation, I think the defendor shouldn't have to worry about all these little details. If it's legal, burglars then know what's up. And they already do come inside armed, so it's just making the fight fair. Defendor should have the benefit in that situation. You don't HAVE to go and invade a house. If you do that, you should accept the risk of getting shot. That's the way I see it. I thin a person should have the mindset that his own home is a sacred place and no one can come and make it otherwise.

    I don't think the same play goes for streets though. Then it has to be obvious that the danger level is life threatning. But in your own home? Fire free zone.

    We should favour people having guns inside their own homes rather than outside. I always hate it when I see some kid playing with a knife, and you see a lot of that in here. I personally absolutely hate knives, I think I have a phobia of getting stabbed. It terrifies me. The idea of cold steel penetrating my organs is something I can't stomach.

    So you get these kids and adults stabbing each other over nothing. It's dangerous to carry a knife. Because if you get into a conflict, what do you do? Do you take it out? When you take it out, you've made an enemy. The cities are small. You'll get it later. So people are more likely to just stab than fight or what would have been an ordinary fight. I don't think concealed weapons make us any safer at all. It's like saying that if everyone has a drivers license, there will be no car crashes, speeding or other traffic violations. The license doesn't matter, everyone has it anyway. Sure, there are responsible people who can handle their weapons and not draw it unless very necessary. In those situations it is beneficial. But there will be way more **** ups anyway.

    But I do promote guns at homes. The burglar makes the choice. They can die, they had it coming. ANd as for these stabbers? I think I should have the right to shoot them as well if they pull it out and threaten me with it. I don't think I should even risk a cut. Dude took out a deadly weapon and said he'd use it on me. People should get a medal for it as well, one ******* less in the world. Good. That's the way it should be.

    The news I hate the most is when some 16 year old punks stab some random jogger 39 times. Ask for a cigarette, beat him and stab him. That's something they planned to do and they stabbed, I think if I'd come to that situation, I should be able to shoot them all, including the ones with no knife. Because they set out to stab me in a gang. What, I should not be able to waste them all for it? Of course I should be able to defend myself and shoot them. If someone escapes, unarmed, runs away, OK. No shooting him, let the cops do the research if tha twas the case. If not? Good. A group of *******s less in our existance. Good.
    Last edited by Pekka; August 16, 2007, 17:57.
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    • #3
      Isn't it already legal to shoot an intruder in your house in the US?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Solver
        Isn't it already legal to shoot an intruder in your house in the US?
        Yes.

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        • #5
          So what, we can shoot the burglar, but not someone who wants to commit murder or rape?


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          • #6
            I think if you're preventing a murder by shooting someone, I think that's legal you know....

            Rape? I don't think so. And no, I don't think you should shoot someone dead, some random rapist, raping some random person. You should beat them up though and call the cops. or if they're inside your house rapign, well... that's the fire free zone, go ahead.
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            • #7
              I think it's a joke, that we have some judges deciding if you should have jumped out the window and escape your own home, or if you should have put on the lights to see if the burglars are armed first to make the correct decision.

              I think you shouldn't have to take any risk at all. Nada. Empty all magazines. You should be able to protect yourself and your family with all costs and not start calculating your odds. THat's what you shouldn't be expected to do, the only thing you should be expected to do is defend your house and family with the means you think you can do it, if it means shoothing the burglars, that's what it then means.

              Naturally it's a bit different if you take them prisoner and execute them like an hour later. That shouldn't be legal, but then again the cops can see it wasn't a very normal home shooting.
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              • #8
                I think it would be better to shoot them before they enter my house. Preemptively so to speak.
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                • #9
                  Isn't it more common that the shooting victim is the teen daughter coming home drunk and/or trying to sneak in with her new boyfriend, than an actual burglar?
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                  • #10
                    Heatseeking missiles on top of the house is of course a must. As secondary defense several mashine guns laying out killing zones all over the ground is evident, and lastly minimum ten tons of TNT will detonate on illegal entrance on the premises (naturally without any way of cancelling).

                    That should keep unwanted people away.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BlackCat
                      Heatseeking missiles on top of the house is of course a must. As secondary defense several mashine guns laying out killing zones all over the ground is evident, and lastly minimum ten tons of TNT will detonate on illegal entrance on the premises (naturally without any way of cancelling).

                      That should keep unwanted people away.
                      And fire fighters who have come to put out your burning house.

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                      • #12
                        quote:
                        Originally posted by Solver
                        Isn't it already legal to shoot an intruder in your house in the US?



                        Originally posted by Zkribbler


                        Yes.

                        If he's in your door/window, make sure they fall inside.
                        Or wait.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SlowwHand
                          If he's in your door/window, make sure they fall inside.
                          Or wait.
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                          • #14
                            yeah, put down a towel or something first. no use staining your rug
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                            • #15
                              Be sure it is a burglat, often accidents happen and the one killed is a relative or friend coming at a very late hour, I remember a case of a man who killed his mother and it was very sad.
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