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  • #1

    a question about debating politics

    Ive had been witness to two RL discussions of the 2008 presidential campaign in the last week.

    At the first, where everyone was suitably lubricated by alcohol, and fairly jolly, I defied some pretty right wing Republicans ("McCain, hes against teh free speech, Romney maybe OK though") by defending teh eevil Socialist Hillary Clinton.

    At another, QOTM was in a discussion with some other women, one of whom was very "progressive" and who said that she could never vote for Hillary, cause Hillary by her vote in 2003 showed she preferred to kill people rather than stand up to Bush lies. Rather than defend teh eevil warmonger Hilary, I decided to keep silent, for QOTMs sake. Needless to say that discussion was not jolly, or well lubricated.

    What Im wondering, is there anyway I could put Ms Pure Peacenik in the room with teh Eevil GOPniks, and they could just explode in a kind of matter - antimatter reaction?

    Alternatively, can I just go to sleep till January 2009, when Hillary and her VP, Bill Richardson, are sworn in?
    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
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    Re: a question about debating politics

    Originally posted by lord of the mark
    Alternatively, can I just go to sleep till January 2009, when Hillary and her VP, Bill Richardson, are sworn in?
    You scare me.
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    • #3
      What Im wondering, is there anyway I could put Ms Pure Peacenik in the room with teh Eevil GOPniks, and they could just explode in a kind of matter - antimatter reaction?
      That would be nice, wouldn't it?

      I've actually gotten some people together whose political views are dramatically opposed, but there was no annihilation. Which is good, considering they're both friends.

      -Arrian
      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

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      • #4
        I have to be so careful when discussing politics at work. I just limit myself to correcting people's misinformation.
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        • #5
          I've been fired twice for discussing politics in work...why...because I DID more than discuss. QOTM sounds like a really powerful, strong masculine and articulate woman who could hold her own in a barfight. I'd recommend pitting her against the GOPniks and the non-lubricated old hag. See what develops in the way of an ass kicking

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Wiglaf
            strong masculine




            Actually she basically ignored the "eevil Hilary is a warmonger" thing and turned the convo to a discussion of Edwards' views on education.
            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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            • #7
              Discussing politics with people who get overly emotional about it is pointless. They're usually ignorant, and won't listen to opposing views.
              ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lorizael
                I have to be so careful when discussing politics at work. I just limit myself to correcting people's misinformation.
                This will get you into trouble, especially if you work with a bunch of Republicans...

                -Arrian
                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                • #9
                  politics is the virtue of manipulation where everyone argues, they die, we win and I get rich. (that is active involment)

                  however politics for a "normal" person ie regular citizen is an exercise in futility where everyone argues, they win, we pay, and I waste time on...
                  Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                  GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wiglaf
                    I've been fired twice for discussing politics in work...
                    Why does this not surprise me?
                    Only feebs vote.

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                    • #11
                      because it was you who fired him twice?
                      Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                      GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
                        because it was you who fired him twice?

                        If so, it must mean that he hired him twice, and that must be even worse
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                        • #13
                          Was Wiglaf the poster who was always having sex with his workmates, or was that someone else?
                          Only feebs vote.

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                          • #14
                            No...my boss encouraged her workers to have sex with her to maintain/get their positions but I was no office slut.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Wiglaf
                              No...my boss encouraged her workers to have sex with her to maintain/get their positions but I was no office slut.
                              She was probably a democrat, too.
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