French Socialism

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

If you haven't noticed, California wines are matching French wins in tastings around the world. Also the weather and general area is far more agreeable in California wine country.

So I've heard. I don't believe it, though. The same claims have been made about New Zealand and Australian wines, but, although they are good wines, it's BS. Same goes for beer.

You wouldn't take New York City cuisine over French countryside? Or Hell, Chicago, Seattle, etc. Sure you have Paris, but I'm doubting that's in the French countryside .

I wouldn't take rural American cuisine over rural French cuisine, and I wouldn't take urban American cuisine over urban French cuisine. They are pretty much two completely different approaches to food, so a nice job of fallacious inference there.

Let's see. If you go to a French restaurant anywhere outside France, you are almost certain to be enjoying a gourmet meal. On the other hand, if you eat at an American restaurant, chances are you are partaking of la malbouffe.

Yep (if that's your user preference) .

The last refuge of the tasteless is relativism.

Quite an amazing house, full of technological marvels.

It's obscene. The fact that you want to defend it, is despicable. He might as well live in a replica of Walt Disney's magic castle.

Yeah... right. These rich folk are going to the local market to buy the local cheese!! What tripe!

Um... yeah. It's called Slow Food. I'm surprised you never heard of it. It's one of the new conspicuous consumption obsessions of the very wealthy, and one of the biggest trends in food in the last 20 years. Doesn't do much for me, though.

I would have thought you would have been more tuned in to the habits of the bobos.

Never mind.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Ramo

Hell yeah. The only place in Europe that's comparable to cities like NY, SF, Chicago, hell even Houston in terms of food is London.

Yes, but it's all imported. Britain's contributions to world food can be summarized as: Spotted Dick; Bovril; mushy peas; and pork pies. If you go north of the border, you can enjoy the delights of haggis, which is basically the contents of a septic tank mixed with sawdust (and smells just like that).

Britain is the world's home of horrible food. When my Dad was growing up there, most people preferred the taste of tinned peas to fresh ones.

No wonder when Asian people immigrated, that they turned their noses up at the **** passing as food in Britain and turned everyone on to their food with the result that curry is now the favourite meal in Britain.

If you have a limited palatte, France is good (say, you only like European food, maybe some West African, Vietnamese and Algerian food), but it's hard to beat the US in sheer variety. Immigrants

Again, it's all imported. Where is the American food? All your best stuff you stole from the Mexicans. A lot of the rest reminds me of that episode of the Sopranos, where Tony takes his gang to Italy and they ask for Macaroni and tomato sauce.

No doubt you can find a good Chinese restaurant in France, just as you have always been able to in the South Pacific. But that's not the point: this is not the food that people normally eat (unless they are a recent immigrant).

[CrONoS]

So, what's the point of your article?

What has to do with France economic/politic model?

It is not the contrary; in rural france; where mainly the traditionalist, catholics and nationalist are living that people want to go?

[LordShiva]

Maybe teh OP was a troll?

[DinoDoc]

Ya think.

[LordShiva]

I don't know enough about Agathon to say

[DinoDoc]

Well he claims to be a filosophy professor. Maybe it's some sort of bizarre Zen experiment in emptying the mind of all thought to meditate.

[Agathon]

People who admire British cooking should be forced to eat a pound of black pudding.

[LordShiva]

Bangers & Mash
Chicken Tikka Masala

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Agathon
So I've heard. I don't believe it, though. The same claims have been made about New Zealand and Australian wines, but, although they are good wines, it's BS. Same goes for beer.

Ah, the same myopic short sightedness that makes people not realize that American microbrew is some of the best in the world.

I wouldn't take rural American cuisine over rural French cuisine, and I wouldn't take urban American cuisine over urban French cuisine. They are pretty much two completely different approaches to food, so a nice job of fallacious inference there.

Not at all... you said that the reason they move to the French countryside is because of the cuisine (among other reasons). Well, the cuisine is as good, if not better, than in urban America. So why move to the French countryside for cuisine?

The last refuge of the tasteless is relativism.

So you think Elvis is something horrible?

It's obscene. The fact that you want to defend it, is despicable. He might as well live in a replica of Walt Disney's magic castle.

It's quite an amazing house. I'd LOVE to live there. Great view, technologically advanced, quite beautiful made.

Um... yeah. It's called Slow Food. I'm surprised you never heard of it. It's one of the new conspicuous consumption obsessions of the very wealthy, and one of the biggest trends in food in the last 20 years. Doesn't do much for me, though.

Bull. Hardly anyone moves to the French countryside for "slow food". So they can go and pick out their own local cheeses from the small country market.... a few eco-freaks may, but few wealthy folks are going to move to be close to the organic local food.

Considering the Slow Food movement has only 83,000 members worldwide (according to wiki) with 35,000 of those in Italy itself, and most are probably eco-freaks, I'm doubting more than a handful of those have moved to the French countryside to partake.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by LordShiva
Bangers & Mash
Chicken Tikka Masala

shepard's pie
fish and chips

[Zkribbler]

Re: French Socialism

Originally posted by Agathon
Other than for the upper middle class, things have not gotten appreciably better.

Opps. The American middle class has been eroding for the past quarter of a century. It's the richest Americans who have been doing well. The economic conditions of almost everyone else is stagnating or declining.

[Patroklos]

Again, it's all imported.

Ummmmm, no.

[Agathon]

Re: Re: French Socialism

Originally posted by Zkribbler

Opps. The American middle class has been eroding for the past quarter of a century. It's the richest Americans who have been doing well. The economic conditions of almost everyone else is stagnating or declining.

I agree. That's why I said upper middle class. I wouldn't call lawyers, advertising executives and other assorted scum ( ) upper class.

From Socialism to a food fight.

It reminds me of the "Apple Macintosh to Bestiality in 10 posts" thread.

[Ramo]

Yes, but it's all imported.

Most of it hasn't been here (or in the UK) for centuries, but I don't see how that has anything to do with the quality of the food. It certainly doesn't matter to me. If you're only interested in generic fast food, you're missing out...

And I'm not saying that everyone in the US is eating great food. But it's there for anyone who wants it. Paris has a much more limited variety of good food than NYC.

I had a $2 bahn mi for lunch, and am gonna get some Thai green curry for dinner. Food in Houston.

Again, it's all imported. Where is the American food?

BBQ, Soul Food, Tex-Mex, Cajun, etc.

Britain is the world's home of horrible food. [...] curry is now the favourite meal in Britain.

That there is what's called a contradiction.