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  • #76
    That the state makes it nearly impossible to obey the law, seems like solid grounds for a due process claim.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Ramo
      That the state makes it nearly impossible to obey the law, seems like solid grounds for a due process claim.
      The state can easily say that the person doesn't have to live in Augusta.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Ramo
        He was convicted of molesting a kid, and that's why the state of North Carolina threw him in prison, where he served his time. This a douchey catch-22. Georgia criminalizes homeless sex offenders, restricts their housing and work environments such that the only places in Augusta that would allow them are two hotels, and the entire state has a single (full) homeless shelter that accepts them. Georgia is run by a bunch of right wing thugs.
        Talk to me when you have a child that can be diddled with.
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        • #79
          sloww, talk to me when you stop using emotions and personal anecdote as the basis for every argument you ever make...
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          • #80
            I'll talk to you Sloww.
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            • #81
              Paedophilia is rapidly becoming the twenty first century equivalent of witchcraft.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by SlowwHand


                Talk to me when you have a child that can be diddled with.
                Why, are you interested ?






                Who'd have thought that only people with children are allowed to debate bad laws, jurisprudence and justice.
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                • #83
                  They're bad laws, period. They amount to additional punishment for a crime and do so for life.
                  This isn't really extra punishment if these restrictions are known to a jury/judge at the time of conviction.

                  I agree in that don't find these particularly useful in protecting children.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                    The lefties prevented us from branding them on their foreheads for first time offenders and castrating repeat offenders.

                    The result was POS law compromise.
                    BS...a number of these sex offenders have the title not for child molestations. The way these people are treated is a huge civil rights infraction Even if they have molested a child they should not lose their rights...in that case a constitutional amendment should be proposed so its legal. What point is having rights and laws if they just ''dont apply'' because the accused is ''too guilty''?
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by East Street Trader
                      Paedophilia is rapidly becoming the twenty first century equivalent of witchcraft.
                      Who did the witches ever harm?
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                      • #86
                        Newts and toads.
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                        • #87
                          NYE, Im not trying to debate whether the sex criminal registration is a good idea or not. Maybe its ineffective. Maybe its not, thats an empirical question Im not in a position to answer. (I do think that applying to all sex offenders, what the folks who want the law assume applies to child molestors or rapists only, is another big issue) Its surely not intrinsically the same thing as imprisoning a person for being homeless.


                          I was just trying to clarify why it has that effect. It does seem to me that there must be many registered sex offenders in Georgia, all but 15 of whom manage to find homes under the law. Now maybe the geography of Augusta makes that city exceptional. Quite possible. Though 15 sounds low for even the number of registered sex offenders in Augusta alone.
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                          • #88
                            I'd be outraged if this guy wasn't a sex offender. If you hurt a child, you should be in jail for life. Someone asked, "If he's still a danger to children, why isn't he still locked up?" That's the whole point. Our laws are too soft on crimes against children. Nobody (except whacko liberals it seems) can tolerate a sex offender. They are sicko's who can't be cured and don't belong in society anymore, yet we just let them lose. If the laws were just and fit the crime, then we wouldn't have to worry about stories such as the topic of this thread.

                            To jump to the other side of the debate for a moment, I do have one problem with this law. What if a person who was convicted of a sex crime is innocent? Unable to prove his innocence, he had to serve the time anyway, but he shouldn't have to fear being a criminal for the rest of his life just because of bad luck and circumstance.
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                            • #89
                              [q=Shrapnel12]Nobody (except whacko liberals it seems) can tolerate a sex offender. They are sicko's who can't be cured and don't belong in society anymore, yet we just let them lose.[/q]

                              So, let's get this straight. A guy who is a "sex offender" because he was 20, while his girlfriend was 17, "can't be cured and [doesn't] belong in society anymore"? Really?

                              And yes, those type of folks are labeled sex offenders if the age of consent law is that sloppy.
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                              • #90
                                If you sit through a few criminal trials one of the things you learn is that the range of circumstance which surrounds each is so wide that no two crimes are the same.

                                Finding some category - sex offender in this case - and then treating anyone in the category as the same ignores this.

                                Three other things that tend to happen to you if you sit through some criminal trials is that your fear of criminals lessens, your sympathy increases a bit and your faith in the honesty of the way the media portray criminal trials drops to zero.

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