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    This thread is dedicated to all of the more embarrassing lunatics that Western democracies have found expedient to install/support at some time or other. Please feel free to bring your favourites out so that we can make an informed decision as to which one was the most crap.


    My first selection is going to be Rafael Leonidas Trujillo Molina (1891-1961) who ruled the Dominican republic from 1930 to his death.


    A petty criminal in his youth, he became involved in more organised crime as a partisan conducting robberies in support of the future president Horacio Vasquez. After the American intervention in the Domican Republic, Trujillo was considered ideal material for their newly-created National Guard, and he was installed as one of the first lieutenants, rising swiftly under their patronage. By the time US troops left in 1924, Trujillo was Chief of the National Police.


    Supported by the US legation, a military-civilian movement was organized in Santiago to overthrow President Vásquez's government, under Rafael Trujillo, then Chief of the Army and Brigadier General, as the military power behind the coup. Elected as president in 1930, Trujillo embarked on a campaign of tyranny, typified by the murder of Virgilio Martinez Reyna and his wife. Martinez Reyna, a prominent supporter of the former Vice-president José Dolores Alfonseca, had advised Alfonseca to get rid of Trujillo when he was gaining power. A group of Trujillo's assassins arrived at his house on June 1st, 1930, and after shooting him butchered his body with machetes. They also shot dead his wife, who was heavily pregnant at the time- leaving her to bleed to death with two shots to the belly.


    He pursued an official campaign of persecution against Haitians, consisting of racist propaganda and violence, culminating in a massacre of around 15,000 in 1937. If that troubled the US, they were reassured by his support during WW2 coupled with his rabid opposition of communism (farmers asking for pay rises tended to be branded commies and shot on the spot). Alhough he has been labelled a fascist, he doesn't appear to have had any real ideological leanings other than being a puffed-up gangster who built a ludicrous personality cult around himself. As well as a multitude of statues and busts, he commanded signboards to be put in churches that read "God in the sky, Trujillo in the Earth." His daughter Angelita was designated "Queen" of the "International Fair of Peace and Fraternity of the World" in 1955, while his barely-literate wife was declared a writer and philosopher.

    In later years, Trujillo became increasingly paranoid and his regime became more isolated. This isolation compounded the dictator's paranoia, causing him to commit atrocities such as the kidnap and murder of the Spaniard Jesús de Galíndez, a professor in the Columbia University in New York. The final straw was his attempt to assassinate Venezuela's president Rómulo Betancourt, which lost his US support. Trujillo was gunned down by assassins in 1961, and rumours persist that the CIA may have been involved to some extent, in the hope of bringing in a less overtly deranged regime to do business with.

    So what are your favourites?
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  • #2
    Ooops. Forgot to mention that Trujillo served time for rape before his rise to power. That was known to the US forces in the 1920's, but didn't stop them backing him.
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    • #3
      why should we confine this to the Wests most embarrassing allies? Takes it out of context, I'd say.

      BTW, what did the US actually do for Trujillo after he took power, and before the 1950's? Or even 1945.
      "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
        Ooops. Forgot to mention that Trujillo served time for rape before his rise to power. That was known to the US forces in the 1920's, but didn't stop them backing him.

        as a minor officer in the Nat Guard, which presumably they didnt have loads of officers for.

        What evidence is there that he was"considered an ideal candidate"

        what exactly is the source for the above?
        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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        • #5
          Originally posted by lord of the mark
          why should we confine this to the Wests most embarrassing allies? Takes it out of context, I'd say.

          Because I'm a Westerner and it appeals to my satirical instincts. A similar thread for the Eastern Bloc wouldn't appeal to me so much as there's less potential for irony/satire in showing dictators suppporting other dictators.

          Still, feel free to start a balancing thread.


          BTW, what did the US actually do for Trujillo after he took power, and before the 1950's? Or even 1945.
          Considered him an ally, and for the purposes of this thread that's good enough Here's "Time" from 1960.

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          • #6
            Trujillo had a nickname of "bottle cap" because he collected them as a small child. He disliked the nickname, so he banned the word and removed it from all the dictionaries on the island.

            Trujillo was corrupted before rising to power: He was found guilty of rape in 1920.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lord of the mark
              why should we confine this to the Wests most embarrassing allies? Takes it out of context, I'd say.
              I thought we (as in 'The West') were meant to be morally superior to the Axis of Weevils or the Evil Empire.

              That being the case, it begs the question, why ally or align ourselves with the likes of Trujillo, Papa Doc, Mobutu, Somoza, Pinochet, Ceausescu, Synghman Rhee, et cetera, et cetera....

              ...the answer is of course that it's entirely fine for our Dear Leaders to hold their noses and lift their skirts as they (metaphorically) step over the puddles of blood left by the dictatorial regimes of the likes of Rios Montt or the 'freedom fighters' of Jonas Savimbi when it serves some alleged strategic purpose.

              It always amused me to hear Thatcher lecturing the Eastern Bloc on civil rights when her governments did so much to infringe civil rights in the United Kingdom.

              Trade unions were all well and good in Poland, but not for the likes of staff at G.C.H.Q. ....


              The GCHQ trade union campaign began after the decision by the Conservative government in January 1984 to ban unions at the GCHQ (Government Communications Head Quarters) intelligence gathering centre in Cheltenham. Eventually 14 workers were dismissed because of their refusal to resign their union membership. The GCHQ campaign became one of the most important trade union issues during the 1980s and 1990s. With the election of a Labour government in May 1997, the rights of trade unionists at GCHQ were partially restored and the campaign ended.


              Solidarity, but not for us:

              The movement got a major morale boost in November 1988, when Jaruzelski hosted British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. A fierce anticommunist, Thatcher lashed out at Jaruzelski at a state banquet, saying Poland's depressed economy would improve only after freedom and liberty were restored.

              She also visited outlawed Solidarity's leaders in Gdansk, telling 5,000 workers: "Nothing can stop you." And at a dinner with union leaders, Britain's "Iron Lady" urged them to forge a practical plan to freedom.

              "How do you see the process from where you are now to where you want to be? Because whatever you want to do, it's not only what you want to do, but how, in a practical way, you see it coming about," Thatcher said.
              Twenty-five years ago next Wednesday -- 31 August 1980 -- unemployed Polish electrician Lech Walesa struck a major blow to Soviet communism when, after leading a strike at the Lenin Shipyard in Gdansk, he announced the official birth of the Solidarity independent trade union. Solidarity went on to play a central role in the demise of communism across the Soviet bloc, changing forever the course of history in Europe.


              I love the smell of hypocrisy at state banquets...
              Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

              ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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              • #8
                Supporting Pol Pot's psychotic regime at the UN was a particular low point.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sandman
                  Supporting Pol Pot's psychotic regime at the UN was a particular low point.
                  Cuddling up to apartheid era South Africa was fairly rank too.

                  But then, they did have that naval base at Simonstown, and gold, and diamonds and mineral deposits...
                  Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                  ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by molly bloom
                    Trade unions were all well and good in Poland, but not for the likes of staff at G.C.H.Q. ....
                    Although one might expect spies to have their primary allegience to the state that employs them rather than to a collective bargaining agency, her contempt for trade unions in Britain compared to her admiration for them in other states always seemed to me an extraordinary contradiction.

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                    • #11
                      I'd say Stalin wins hands down. Not that the alternative was better...
                      Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Saras
                        I'd say Stalin wins hands down. Not that the alternative was better...
                        Don't forget, the just-defeated Japanese Imperial Army was used to 'keep order' in French Indo China post-WWII.

                        Vanity and pride of the French could not allow defeat. Upon release from imprisonment, the French subsequently rearmed Japanese troops and along with German and other mercenaries proceeded to retake the entire Indochina area.
                        Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                        ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                        • #13
                          Definitely has to be Israel.
                          Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sandman
                            Supporting Pol Pot's psychotic regime at the UN was a particular low point.
                            QFT
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                            AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                            AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                            DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by molly bloom


                              I thought we (as in 'The West') were meant to be morally superior to the Axis of Weevils or the Evil Empire.
                              I dont know what we were "meant to be" and by whom. I do know that during the cold war, as during WW2, we were engaged in a difficult global struggle, in which it was almost certainly not possible to apply a strict morality test to our allies. That does not mean we did not make mistakes, or that some of our politicians were not immoral in their political choices, but it does mean that to take it out of context, to simply imply, as this kind of 'satire' tends to, that our stands were complete hypocrisy, is incorrect.
                              "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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