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    He had it long coming, that little snake:

    Galloway ejected as MPs back suspension


    Matthew Tempest and agencies
    Tuesday July 24, 2007
    Guardian Unlimited
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    George Galloway was ejected from the Commons chamber on top of his suspension from parliament last night.

    The Respect MP had expected the 18-day expulsion after the standards and privileges committee last week criticised him over the transparency of his charity, the Mariam Appeal.

    But, while defending himself in the chamber last night, Mr Galloway was ejected by the Speaker, Michael Martin, after repeatedly criticising the committee and its members.

    The outspoken anti-war MP had been talking for more than an hour as he sought to defend himself against a motion to suspend him.

    After repeated warnings from Mr Martin about attacking the integrity of committee members, Mr Galloway angrily protested: "Having told me you would protect me, we are now getting to the stage where you are going to have to throw me out of parliament prematurely."

    As he was ordered from the chamber, he shouted that he would continue his speech outside for anyone who wanted to hear it.

    Opening the debate earlier, Mr Galloway complained: "Being lectured by the current House of Commons on the question of the funding of political campaigns is like being accused of having bad taste by Donald Trump, like being accused of slouching by the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

    "This house stands in utter ill-repute on the question of the funding of political campaigns."

    Mr Galloway's 18-day suspension - which bars him from the palace of Westminster and means pay will be deducted from his salary - will commence when MPs come back from the summer recess on October 8.

    The committee censured him for failing to register an interest and for "excessive" use of taxpayer-funded facilities for the charity, and recommended his suspension for failing to supervise funding from Saddam Hussein's former regime and for failing to provide evidence to the inquiry itself.

    Its report came at the end of a lengthy and detailed investigation into the now-defunct Mariam Appeal by Sir Philip Mawer, the commissioner for parliamentary standards.

    The appeal was a fund set up in 1998 by Mr Galloway to raise money for a four-year-old Iraqi girl with leukaemia. It also became a political vehicle demanding the lifting of sanctions on Iraq.

    Sir Philip said that the Bethnal Green and Bow MP had "consistently failed to live up to the expectation of openness and straightforwardness" during the inquiry.

    And he found "powerful" evidence that large sums for the charity came from the Iraq regime via the UN's oil-for-food programme and that Mr Galloway was probably complicit in that.

    The inquiry was launched in 2003 but was suspended for more than two years during Mr Galloway's successful libel action against the Daily Telegraph over claims he received money from Saddam.

    Sir Philip said that there was no evidence that the MP had personally received payments but there was "powerful" circumstantial evidence that "a substantial part" of donations to the appeal from its chairman, Jordanian businessman Fawaz Zureikat, "came from moneys derived, via the oil-for-food programme, from the former Iraqi regime".

    Following Mr Galloway's exit, Sir George Young, the Tory chairman of the standards and privileges committee, insisted: "This is not a debate about party political funding as Mr Galloway maintained, it is about openness, it is about accountability, it is about integrity and also it is about our rules on advocacy."

    And he demanded: "When he argued in this chamber against sanctions on Iraq, did he know and therefore was the house entitled to know that the vehicle for this campaign was funded in part by Saddam Hussein?

    "The evidence led us to the conclusion that he solicited these funds, was instrumental in securing them, directed their expenditure and was complicit in trying to conceal their true origin."

    The government, Conservative and Liberal Democrat frontbenches all endorsed the report and the sanction.

    Urging MPs to back the move, Harriet Harman, the leader of the house, said: "The committee has concluded that Mr Galloway has failed to meet the standards expected."

    His expulsion by Mr Martin will remove him from the house until the recess later this week.

    His suspension by MPs was agreed without a vote.

    George Galloway may face criminal inquiry

    By Andrew Pierce and Richard Edwards
    Last Updated: 2:12am BST 18/07/2007


    Scotland yard is to take the first steps toward a possible criminal investigation against George Galloway, who faces an 18-day suspension from the Commons over his financial links to Saddam Hussein's regime, The Daily Telegraph can disclose today.

    Detectives are to seek documents from the Serious Fraud Office, which carried out a previous investigation, to establish whether there are grounds to prosecute Mr Galloway.

    The police may seek his bank accounts after a report by Sir Philip Mawer, the Parliamentary Standards Commisioner, concluded yesterday that Mr Galloway's Mariam Appeal charity received large sums from Saddam's manipulation of the United Nations oil-for-food programme.

    Sir Philip said: "Mr Galloway has consistently denied, prevaricated and fudged in relation to the now undeniable evidence that the Mariam Appeal, and he indirectly through it, received money derived, via the Oil for Food programme, from the Iraqi regime."

    He added: "Mr Galloway through his controlling position in the appeal, benefited from those monies, in terms of furtherance of his political objectives."

    He went on: "He [Mr Galloway] had received such support at least recklessly or negligently, and probably knowingly."

    But Sir Philip said there was no evidence that Mr Galloway had benefited personally from the programme or that any funds had entered his personal bank account.

    The 181-page report said that the Respect MP had "consistently failed to live up to the expectation of openness and straightforwardness".

    The Commons standards and privileges committee, in recommending the 18-day ban, said Mr Galloway had been "complicit" in the concealment of the true source of funds for the Mariam Appeal. MPs will vote on the ban which will begin when Parliament resumes after the summer recess.

    Mr Galloway called the inquiry a "politicised tribunal". Speaking outside the Commons, he said: "I challenged everything that Sir Humphrey and Sir Bufton and Sir Tufton put to me because the points they were putting to me were false. I will not allow people to make false allegations against me.

    [...]

    The investigation was triggered by The Daily Telegraph in April 2003 when David Blair, a foreign correspondent, discovered documents purporting to be about Mr Galloway in the Iraqi foreign ministry in Baghdad shortly after Saddam's overthrow. The papers claimed to show that he received funds from Saddam's regime for the Mariam Appeal.

    The committee report demands that Mr Galloway apologise to Blair, who he accused of perjury, and to the Commons. In December 2004 The Daily Telegraph lost a libel action brought by Mr Galloway who was paid £150,000 in damages.

    Detectives are studying the section of the report where Sir Philip referred to Mr Galloway's bank accounts which he had not seen. The report said: "I have not pressed for access to bank accounts . . . primarily because I believe that embarking on such action could take me into matters more properly within the jurisdiction of other agencies."

    There have been several investigations into the oil-for-food programme, including one in the United States, to which Mr Galloway gave evidence.

    [...]

    At Westminster the committee emphatically rejected Mr Galloway's claim that the oil-for-food programme could not be considered Iraqi government funding. "This is purely a matter of semantics: those selling oil under the programme first required options granted by the Iraqi government.

    "Mr Galloway's conduct aimed at concealing the true source of Iraqi funding of the Mariam Appeal, his conduct towards Mr David Blair and others in this inquiry, his unwillingness to co-operate fully with the commissioner, and his calling into question of the commissioner's and our own integrity have, in our view, damaged the reputation of the House.

    "We recommend that he apologise to the House, and be suspended for a period of 18 actual sitting days."

    Mr Galloway was "irresponsible" for not verifying the source of some of the donations and his failure to declare an interest in the Commons.

    "In acting as he did Mr Galloway breached the advocacy rule and damaged the reputation of the House. We believe he was complicit in the concealment of the true source of the funds for the Mariam Appeal."

  • #2
    Poor Ted Striker. Your idol's fall mirrored your own.

    I wonder if Norm Coleman sent him a letter with just one word on it: "pwnt."
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    • #3
      Originally posted by DinoDoc
      Poor Ted Striker. Your idol's fall mirrored your own.

      I wonder if Norm Coleman sent him a letter with just one word on it: "pwnt."
      Catty.
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      • #4
        About time.
        Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Doddler
          Catty.
          Deserved.
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #6
            Not this same crap again...

            How many times have they been trying to pin this stuff on him? The Telegraph tried and got sued for libel. There's no case here. If there was, it would have come out long before now. Some of the money that went to Galloway's charity came from Iraqi oil sales, but there is no evidence that he knew about it. In any case, at the least the money was used for something good, and there is no evidence that Galloway profited personally from it.

            I see the usual drooling cretins are lining up against him.

            I got a good laugh out of this:

            "Being lectured by the current House of Commons on the question of the funding of political campaigns is like being accused of having bad taste by Donald Trump, like being accused of slouching by the Hunchback of Notre Dame.
            "This House stands in utter ill repute on the question of the funding of political campaigns."
            And he went on: "None of the parties here, and all three of them are culpable, ever asked the millionaires and billionaires who gave them and lent them money where they got the money from."


            Galloway has been a thorn in the side of the powers that be for years. They've tried this tactic several times and failed, not just with regard to Iraq, but with regard to his previous charities.
            Last edited by Agathon; July 24, 2007, 20:06.
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            • #7
              Knowing nothing about British politics other than that Galloway is a guy that sometimes gets on TV and is irritable for peace and the left, it does seem that he is being witch-hunted out of his office.

              EDIT: Having read more about him, I don't like him either, but I really don't like the way his opponents are trying to handle him.
              Last edited by mrmitchell; July 24, 2007, 21:48.
              meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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              • #8
                Doesnt seem as if they have any evidence against him, so i do not accept their actions either. Couldnt say if there was any foul play involved in his charity though.

                Moreover his point seems to be at least partially correct, that other parties do not go to lenghts to examine whether the cash that got paid to them as political support by their friends, was clean or not.

                And i do not see how this changes at all the fact that his stance on the Iraq war and in the creation of Palestine issues has many supporters.
                Last edited by Varwnos; July 24, 2007, 21:52.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mrmitchell
                  Knowing nothing about British politics other than that Galloway is a guy that sometimes gets on TV and is irritable for peace and the left, it does seem that he is being witch-hunted out of his office.

                  EDIT: Having read more about him, I don't like him either, but I really don't like the way his opponents are trying to handle him.
                  He is a funny guy. There's not much they can get him on, as he freely admits most of the bad stuff he does. He's a terrible and admitted womaniser by all accounts.

                  What he's being punished for now is for calling the commission bent. He's probably right. What kind of Kangaroo court is it that is composed in the main of your political opponents, whom you spend your time attacking and embarrassing. But even they said that Galloway has not personally profited from it.

                  What's even worse is that when the British government was supporting Saddam Hussein, Galloway was one of the few people who stood up and made a noise about the dire state of human rights in Iraq.

                  But he's essentially being punished for being right and refusing to be quiet about it. The dirty secret of UK politics is that the UK government is, at the end, under the thumb of the Americans, who will withdraw Trident if the UK does not play ball.
                  Only feebs vote.

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                  • #10
                    Some of the money that went to Galloway's charity came from Iraqi oil sales, but there is no evidence that he knew about it.
                    The investigation chief, is directly quoted accusing Galloway of being fully aware of the funding origin and trying to conceal that information.

                    Since this was not some crazed accuser, but rather an official investigation whose findings were unanimously supported by all political groups in the house, I think that it should be given due credibility.

                    In any case, at the least the money was used for something good, and there is no evidence that Galloway profited personally from it.
                    Well that's not very true, is it?

                    His fund was mainly a political campaign against sanctions on Iraq, and it is suddenly discovered that it was funded using Iraqi oil money.

                    Having a successful political campaign (and have it funded for you) is a type of personal profit - it is a profit in credibility and political might.

                    The allocation of funds from Iraq to the politician's cause, and surrounding evidence of his close relations with the tyrant, suggest that perhaps he was not an impartial observer to this issue.

                    When it was merely a newspaper handling this story one could have denied it as populist journalism. I sincerely doubt the British parliament could be unanimously driven out of hate for a loud person.

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                    • #11
                      Oil for Propoganda Program

                      -Arrian
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                      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                      • #12
                        His fund was mainly a political campaign against sanctions on Iraq, and it is suddenly discovered that it was funded using Iraqi oil money.
                        Then it wasn't a charity and he shouldn't have been badgered for not registering it. And the Charity Commission should not be investigating it.

                        --

                        BTW, it seems that Galloway must be immensely popular in his home region, after all, he's won reelection in a third party.
                        meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                        • #13
                          His fund was mainly a political campaign against sanctions on Iraq, and it is suddenly discovered that it was funded using Iraqi oil money.
                          Was this the document that was proved to be a forgery within a ridiculously short time after it's sensational release in FOX NEWS, which was a reaction to Galloway standing up for other lies made up by the Blair cabinet wrt Iraq's supposed WMD program? It's hard to keep up with all the "proof" against people who stood up to Bush's lies about the Iraq war when all of them are proven to be forged so quickly.

                          EDIT: More specifically, this document?
                          Evidence presented to the Committee (contract M/9/23); George Galloway's name appears next to Fawaz Zureikat in a different font and at an angle to the rest of the text on that line (number 23 in the list).
                          To echo Galloway himself:
                          Senator, I am not now, nor have I ever been, an oil trader, and neither has anyone on my behalf. I have never seen a barrel of oil, owned one, bought one, sold one - and neither has anyone on my behalf. Now I know that standards have slipped in the last few years in Washington, but for a lawyer you are remarkably cavalier with any idea of justice. I am here today but last week you already found me guilty. You traduced my name around the world without ever having asked me a single question, without ever having contacted me, without ever written to me or telephoned me, without any attempt to contact me whatsoever. And you call that justice.
                          Last edited by RGBVideo; July 25, 2007, 11:19.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sirotnikov

                            The investigation chief, is directly quoted accusing Galloway of being fully aware of the funding origin and trying to conceal that information.
                            And Tony Blair, along with many of these people, accused Saddam Hussein of having weapons of mass destruction. That's about how much credibility they have.

                            Since this was not some crazed accuser, but rather an official investigation whose findings were unanimously supported by all political groups in the house, I think that it should be given due credibility.
                            This was not a court of law, but a political court. When this has been taken to a real court, Galloway has won every time. If he does have a racket to enrich himself it is by goading newspapers to libel him.

                            Well that's not very true, is it?
                            According to even this kangaroo court it is true.

                            His fund was mainly a political campaign against sanctions on Iraq, and it is suddenly discovered that it was funded using Iraqi oil money.

                            In fact, it was not legally a charity, but it was organized as a political campaign. Nevertheless, it was investigated by the charity commission, and the results were (from wiki):

                            The Charity Commission found that the Mariam Appeal had done charitable work and raised significant funds, so should have registered with them and published accounts, taking the view that the legal advice the Appeal founders had taken that the constitution did not create a charity was wrong. It established that Dr. Amineh Abu-Zayyad (a Muslim Palestinian, who became Galloway's wife from 2000 to 2005) and Stuart Halford, two of the original trustees, had received unauthorised benefits in the form of salary payments from the Appeal’s funds, although the executive committee considered these payments necessary and were unaware that they were unauthorised.

                            The Charity Commission did not find other evidence to support the allegations that funds had been misused. Some of the Appeal's books and records had been sent to Amman and Baghdad in 2001 when Fawaz Zuriekat took over as Chairman of the Appeal and could not now be located. The Appeal had not produced annual profit and loss accounts or balance sheets.

                            The Charity Commission took the view that the political activities of the Appeal were ancillary to the charitable purposes of the Appeal and that the Trustees could reasonably have formed the view that this would have the impact of enabling treatment for sick children.

                            As the Appeal was by this time closed, full records were unavailable, that the founders believed on legal advice that they had not created a charity, and there was no evidence that the funds of the Appeal were misapplied (other than for salaries), the Charity Commission decided to take no further action other than informing the Trustees of their mistakes.
                            So Galloway created this appeal to provide medical care for Iraqi children and to raise awareness of their plight. Apparently, almost all the money went there, although some people took salaries with the honest belief that they were entitled to them. Galloway did not receive a penny.

                            Having a successful political campaign (and have it funded for you) is a type of personal profit - it is a profit in credibility and political might.
                            Yes, but we want politicians to do this. This is part of their job. That's why they have campaign fundraisers among other things. On the other hand, if Galloway really wanted to increase his credibility and political might, he would not have alienated his own party until he got thrown out, and he wouldn't have spent his career as he has. He is a very able man and a fearsome debater (as was Robin Cook). If he wanted political power he could have kept his opinions to himself and he would probably have ended up a cabinet minister.

                            The allocation of funds from Iraq to the politician's cause, and surrounding evidence of his close relations with the tyrant, suggest that perhaps he was not an impartial observer to this issue.
                            He met Saddam the same number of times as Donald Rumsfeld did. He had to deal with the Iraqi government to get the Mariam Appeal to work.

                            As I said above, Galloway was one of the few people who actively campaigned against Saddam Hussein in the 1980s (when the British government was selling him weapons).

                            It was obvious by 1998 that Saddam was the lesser evil. The sanctions were hurting ordinary Iraqis far more than he could.

                            When it was merely a newspaper handling this story one could have denied it as populist journalism. I sincerely doubt the British parliament could be unanimously driven out of hate for a loud person.
                            Go live there for a while, and then you'll see. You Israelis are too civilized.
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                            • #15
                              Why "little snake"?

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