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  • #61
    Originally posted by Odin


    not for another 10,000 years. I'm sure we'll be technologically advanced enough to control the climate by then.
    Certainly we will be able to do such at that time - primarily because we know how climate functions then.
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by lord of the mark


      How much data do we have that establishing that putting massive amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere is a GOOD idea? Should we have NOT started the industrial revolution till more data was in. You go with the best data you have. Right now the best data and modeling says that the current rate we are putting GHG into the atmosphere will lead to the range of temp changes i quoted above. Ogie thinks thats still a wide range. Call it what you will. I think its a wide enough range to consider action.
      LOTM

      1. I have never advocated ignoring the issue since perfect data is unavailable. I actually believe that we should be reducing pollution of all types. In the past 50 years there have been dozens of substances that now face much more stringent regulation due to the discovery of negative impacts from their emission. I would imagine in the next 50 years we will find dozens of more substances that cause harm.

      2. All that peeves me off is the stuff that some people cite as proof. IT seems every sunny day, or rainy day or windy day is the sign of the apocalypse. I remember the ice off Iceland thread where people went nuts about the phenomenon etc etc

      I do accept the following

      a) The earth has been both colder and warmer than it is right now
      b) The earth is currently warming
      c) Increases of certain gases in the atmosphere can cause warming
      d) Quantification of the temperature increases caused by increased gas emission is relatively uncertain (this is actually more worrying than if we had quantified it)
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Flubber

        2. All that peeves me off is the stuff that some people cite as proof. IT seems every sunny day, or rainy day or windy day is the sign of the apocalypse. I remember the ice off Iceland thread where people went nuts about the phenomenon etc etc

        Yeah, but people do that all the time on all kinds of issues. When Clinton raised taxes, any business failing anywhere was proof that the tax increase was causing a depression, IIRC . That kind of stupidity shouldnt distract us from the main issues.
        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Doddler
          This is what it's all about. Left-wing economics failed so they've had to hijack an arts discipline in order to subvert our successful economic system.
          I wonder if I should answer or let the nonsense speak for itself...
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Master Zen


            I wonder if I should answer or let the nonsense speak for itself...
            Don't do that - it's such a beautiful gem of idiocy that is best preserved in it's pure state.
            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

            Steven Weinberg

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